Spare Us Going To 'The Rose Bowl' Nonsense

by Nestor on Nov 24, 2007 7:02 PM PST in Football Comment 43 comments

So as expected the Bruin defense dominates over a hapless Ducks team that got exposed as one trick pony without all world Dennis Dixon. In Dorrell's last game at the Rose Bowl we get what else, fireworks from our FG unit!

Photo Credit:AP Photo/Jeff Lewis (ESPN)

Yeap, you are looking right at the latest Dorrellian offensive weapon Kai Fortbath, who was the MVP of yet another ugly, unwatchable Dorrellain victory. Here is the box score if actually want to check out our "stats."

Just like the wins against a Cal team with one legged Nate Longshore was meaningless, today's "win" against a mediocre Ducks team in the grand scheme of things will mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Oh and please spare us the UCLA to Rose Bowl BS. Even if the Bruins win against bunch of over-rated TrOJies and back into the Rose Bowl thanks to the Choke Devils, it will not hide the fact that we are coached by a Doofus, a joke of an offensive idiot, whose team looks impotent no mattter what QB is leading the offense.

All we need to do right now is buckle up and get through this coming week during which we are going to be barraged with BS about how an incompetent football coach has his back against the wall, and how he is going to fight for his job against our rivals from cross town.

I will make this clear now. I don't care about beating the TrOJies next Saturday. That game means nothing to me. And I don't care about getting to the Rose Bowl thanks to the mediocre chokers from rest of the conference.

All I care about at this point is to make sure we let the world know we want Karl Dorrell gone from Westwood next week. We have had enough of this Doofus sucking all the joy out of caring for UCLA football. So please spare us all the Rose Bowl BS. If you actually care about the long term health of our alma mater's football program you wouldn't fall for that kind of BS.

Thread it up in our post game thread.

GO BRUINS.

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/ I don't care about beating the TrOJies next Saturday. That game means nothing to me. /

As much I want Dorrell gone, this game should always mean something to students and alumni. I'd hate to think your feelings for Dorrell would affect how you feel the team does, though that's how I read this comment. I'm also assuming you watched us play piss-poor today based on this vitrol (ABC didn't show the game in Boston), but I'd reconsider. Beating SC and Dorrell moving on should be two different things. If not, don't blame the team or even Sleeping Beauty - blame Guerrero.

GO BRUINS.

Vaya con dios.

by boston bruin on Nov 24, 2007 7:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I went to the bar

to watch this game. And it was disgusting.

And I am not going to reconsider what I wrote. I don't give a sh!t how we do against SuC. And I don't think I have anything to prove to anyone here on my hatred for the SCums.

The long term health of our football program is lot more important than getting a cheap win over some overrated TrOJie team.

I want this Doofus gone. That is the bottom line and I am going to make sure we hit the point that we expect this loser to get the f*ck out of Westwood even if pull out a win next weekend in a meaningless game.

And yes its the Doofus who has made next weekend's game meaningless, not us.

He killed UCLA football, not us.

by Nestor on Nov 24, 2007 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I hope we both get what we want

And I second what you wrote about the basketball team's play against MSU - the discipline and drive on that team compared to our football team. It's wonderful to see and disheartening when comparing the two.

Vaya con dios.

by boston bruin on Nov 24, 2007 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Nestor, you have to face the music

If Doofus' team beats SC next week, the harsh reality is -- and whether we go to the Rose Bowl or not as a result -- that his supporters will fight tooth and nail for DG to retain him, and these clowns will have momentum. Hell, even if we lose to SC, those clowns will try their damnest to make a case with this Oregon win as reason for KD not to be let go.

If Dixon had not gone down last week, UCLA would have stood no chance today, but as KD's luck would have it, he did go down and the remaining Oregon offense was foul and pathetic. You don't think Oregon with Dixon would have scored more than 16 points?

I repeat, cockroaches and rats are easier to eliminate than Doofus.

by bluegold on Nov 24, 2007 7:32 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If his supporters want to fight to keep him ...

then bring it on. If the Doofus is retained we will make the lives of DG and the UCLA administrators unbearable from hereon out.

And they should know we are capable of doing just that.

by Nestor on Nov 24, 2007 7:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If that's the case

I will be gearing up for battle as well.

by bluegold on Nov 24, 2007 7:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeap

In case it is not clear we need to say it emphatically all week this season already has been a huge failure. Dorrell's entire career has been a miserable failure.

And even if we beat the SCums next Saturday (which we just may given the fact we are playing an over-rated team), DG needs to fire the Doofus next week.

I know we have made the points why Doofus is a complete joke for last few years, but we will need to turn the heat up even more this coming week.

We are not going to let him off the hook just because we are heading into "Beat SC" week.

by Nestor on Nov 24, 2007 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

This was an ugly game

It was very close to the game against Illinois in Dorrell's first year. UCLA only had one drive longer than 40 yards.

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 24, 2007 7:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

justsc

How many turnovers will justsc have inside their 30? Take that number and multiply by 3. That's how many points we get.

justsc will get at least 20 points.

I don't think it's particularly likely that the Bruins will win.

That makes us 6-6, and that should be enough to convince DG to put an end to the experiment.

But we're bowl eligible! Make your reservations in Visalia or maybe even Indio.

by Fox 71 on Nov 24, 2007 8:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

yup...

thats soo true, the ppl behind me today, i was sitting in section 20 to sit with my parents in the shade rather toast in sun to watch a crappy game, and everytime we got the ball they would yell "kick the field goal Karl" get the sure 3 pts.

by redsand514 on Nov 24, 2007 9:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree w/ you, but also disagree... re. next week

Nestor, I think you're right, the pressure should still be ON to get KD outta Westwood. The fact that we can possibly back in to the Rose Bowl is actually quite funny. And, yes, I am still in shock that we actually won today, with or w/out Dennis Dixon playing. However.... I also think you're wrong about NEXT week.

Even IF we do beat $C next week, I don't think the argument can be made that Dorrell can be kept. So what if we make it to the Rose Bowl... if we happen to get there and lose (or even get there and win, I would argue), this is all a moot point...

getting into the Rose Bowl with 7-5 record? In any other year, this never happens... This is a unique season proving one of two things about the Pac-10, which is the reason why no one takes our conference seriously, esp. on the east coast: 1) the conference is laden with CHOKERS, and 2) there's an awful lot of parity here... truly on any given Saturday, ANYONE in this conference can beat anyone... Stanford defeating SC at the Coliseum proves that. The Bruins beating Oregon and Cal and losing to Wazzu and AZ in the same season is another...

The case can still be made that Dorrell can't stay whether or not we beat SC next week... The numbers tell the story, the HISTORY of the last five years tells the same story, as does this horribly fluctuating season we've all just suffered through... Guerrero and the Administration would also have to admit at this point next week that this is an aberrant season at best... C'mon, 7-5 (6-3) getting us a Pac-10 crown??... that hasn't happened in decades...

I disagree with you in that next week is not big and that it doesn't matter. Your saying that you could care less is akin to saying you want us to lose... That can't be.

As much as I want Dorrell to go, we can't get thumped by these guys again, even though we did win last year. This type of victory over those a**holes cross town is the sort of victory that does wonders for the program, for the spirit of the rivalry... it should mean very little for Dorrell's survival. You already have my backing and hundreds (thousands?) of others determined to pressure DG and the new ucla administration that changes in the football program are REQUIRED. (i.e. new coach, and an entirely NEW philosophy)

We can beat SC, go to the Rose Bowl and still insist on such changes. Granted, the argument in Dorrell's favor would strengthen if we happen to beat the trOJans next Saturday, but EVERYONE at that point will have to admit that our advancement to the Rose Bowl has to do with other forces and very little to do with our head coach, his philosophy or his abilities. Anyone can argue in Dorrell's favor till their blue in the face, the fact is that he has been MEDIOCRE, and mediocrity NEVER should guarantee longevity in ANY job, least of all head coach for the UCLA football Bruins.

We've come to a point, as alums, as students, as supporters, that we EXPECT a top notch (top 5?) program year in and year out.... We're not settling any longer. Whether we end up 6-6, 7-5 or even 8-5, this season was HORRENDOUS and changes need to be made.

That being said, let's kick the crap out of the TrOJans again, this time in their house... let Dorrell have his final win as a Bruin coach, in the best of fashion, but let such a victory be a hallmark moment, indicating that a new chapter in ucla football history is here...

A second consecutive victory over SC would cause them to panic yet again, and worry about the state of their program... ours would be an indication that UCLA football, can't be kicked around for long, even with a doofus-of-a-coach.

BEAT SC!!! Go Bruins!

W.S. Montano Class of 1994

by wsmontano1994 on Nov 24, 2007 8:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Actually this may have happened in 2000

that this is an aberrant season at best... C'mon, 7-5 (6-3) getting us a Pac-10 crown??... that hasn't happened in decades...

I believe Ty Willingham took Stanfurd to the 2000 Rose Bowl (Fall 1999 season) after a fairly mediocre season.

by bruinliv on Nov 25, 2007 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

They were 8-3

by SuperBruinMan on Nov 25, 2007 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed........

I want the Doofus out as badly as anyone here and expect us to be one of the elite programs in the country but no matter what the circumstances are I still want to beat those SCumbags from across town. For me, this coming week is like none other.

by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 24, 2007 9:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Not caring . . .

about beating SC
about going to the Rose Bowl

WTF???

by Forearm Shiver on Nov 24, 2007 9:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Beating 'SC and going to Rose Bowl doesn't matter?

Wow, then what are you excited about? I was at the game today in the lower alumni big-donor section and everyone was laughing at KD's playcalling. But hey, we won and if we beat 'SC and ASU loses next weekend, we go to the Rose Bowl. To me, that matters. I don't care how we get there (other than cheating) as long as we do.

I think some of you here are so jaded that you can't enjoy the here and now. Stop worrying about the future - something that we don't control - you'll never enjoy the present.

I went to all the home games this weekend and UCLA went 3-0: Women's Soccer, Basketball, and Football. So I'm a happy Bruin. If we beat 'SC next week I'll be even happier. With 6 wins we are now bowl eligible. :-)

by mark the bruin on Nov 24, 2007 10:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The words "bowl eligible"

just make me want to puke. That should be a given. It should be "which bowl are we going to this year".

This ridiculous scenario is set up in such a way where we could conceivably gain bare minimum bowl eligibility one week, and secure a spot in a BCS BOWL the very week after that. If that confluence of events happens every single year from here on out, then fine, let's keep KD. If not, then he needs to be fired, regardless of what happens the rest of the season, because even 7-5 is completely unacceptable, especially given the way we lost those games and who we lost them to.

by Tydides on Nov 24, 2007 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Boy, have you been trained to SETTLE or what?

The Bruins came into this season ranked #11 and was touted as fielding one of the best defenses in the country.

Under Doufus' leadership, we have endured humiliating losses to Utah, Notre Dame, Wazu, and Arizona. We are a laughing stock!

If getting into the Rose Bowl by default is okay to you, when our team should have been able to be part of the BCS conversation, then you have been drinking the Dorrellian Koolaid and have become content to settle.

But that's not the standard I think UCLA should represent.

Go Bruins; Dump Dorrell.

by PeterUCLA on Nov 25, 2007 3:11 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Speaking of laughter

Last night on ESPN's college football summary they had a short piece on the Rose Bowl race. When they reviewed the Pac-10, they gave the scenarios needed for UCLA, USC, and ASU to get in. When they got to UCLA, I kid you not, the announcer laughed. I'm not making this up. Anyone else see it? I think it was Rece Davis. They know what a farce it would be if we got in.

by NickBruin on Nov 25, 2007 6:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

yep

I saw it, but didn't really hear it because I was laughing louder than him.

by sausmaf on Nov 25, 2007 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

notre dame 21 stanford 14...

thanks dorrell, thanks, i mean really, thanks for wasting my saturdays, with your crappy boring, inept brand of football

by redsand514 on Nov 24, 2007 10:15 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

One week from now, Guerrero should quote

Tom Osbourne who said today, on firing Callahan:

"If you lose a fairly large number of games by a significant margin and you have reasonably good players, which I think we have, then that means there may be some systematic issues, some underlying issues,"

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 24, 2007 11:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I think the problem here

is that some people can't believe that people have made up their minds about whether KD should go before the end of the season. To them I say: It is possible. It is reality. Just like the 5 losses we have incurred this season is a reality. Just like how our best offense today was literally our defense is a reality.

It's hard to believe anyone would sign up for even one more game of this crap. If the Dorrellistas were satisfied by what they saw take place on the field today (I'm pretty sure it wasn't even Football), then they deserve this sinking ship and the many more losses that will come with it.

If KD is around next year, I promise that I will not be, and from the looks of it, neither will thousands of disenchanted Bruin fans. Just because we are UCLA doesn't mean that there is a floor on how low the program can sink or how low the attendance numbers can go. Just something for DG to think about.

by Tydides on Nov 24, 2007 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Second that...

It is precisely because I decided KD should go that I can pull heart and soul for UCLA to kill those f***ers at $c. I'm not torn. The unacceptable losses and national embarassment we suffered the last few years, and esp this year when we had realistic expectations of greatness, cannot be overcome by a final win over the spoiled children or even a Rose Bowl. It is a true measure of KD's legacy that true Bruin fans can't even root for our boys in the most important game of the year. C'mon, Nestor. F-$c! Let's finish them AND KD in the same weekend!!

greg in denver

by gbruin on Nov 25, 2007 7:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Just returned home

from the Virginia-Virginia Tech game, followed by watching many of today's games from the comfort of a friend's house. Our game obviously not televised over broadcast TV here, but from what I could gather from the bottom scroll and text messages from a friend in LA: 1) Oregon's Offense w/o Dixon is incredibly bad, 2) our offense was not that much better, 3) BO entered the game in the 2nd half, and did not do much better than OR.

While I understand N's feelings about next week's game, and if given the clear choice of beating $C or being rid of KD, KD would be printing his resume about now, I just can't not care about the result of that game.

by bruinhoo on Nov 24, 2007 11:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

"But it is what it is"

Quote from Dorrell's post-game interview.

by bruinhoo on Nov 24, 2007 11:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

If we're talking about

his offense's inability to score anytime the drive doesn't start in field goal range, then yes, It is what it is.

by Tydides on Nov 24, 2007 11:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Dorrell protagonist.

TJ Simer, today in the LAT, now turning towards retaining Coach Dorrell.
Come on Nestor, we have to root for the Bruins against the evil team on the other side of town.

by jim masterson on Nov 24, 2007 11:29 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

TJ Simer is a trOJan sympathizer...

of course he wants UCLA to retain Dorrell, so that we'll never be competitive with his darling SUCkers.

Don't be swayed by the partisan Trojan hacks at the LA Times!

by PeterUCLA on Nov 25, 2007 3:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

If KD Isn't Fired

the next time UCLA asks me for $$$$ I'm going to tell them to call TJ.

Let him pay for this shit.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 25, 2007 7:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

TJ raises a ton of money for UCLA -

He raises significant awareness and money for Mattel Children's Hospital at UCLA & challenges others to do the same.

by mr havercamp on Nov 25, 2007 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Mr Havercamp?!?!

dude, that screen name is awesome!

greg in denver

by gbruin on Nov 25, 2007 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Good for Simers

I request that he confine his writing to human interest stuff about the hospital, and not poison people's minds with misinformation about the cesspool that the football program is currently sinking into.

by Fox 71 on Nov 25, 2007 12:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Can You Believe It...

CTS has a chance to make it to the Rose Bowl in his last season as Head Doofus...
Knowing his luck, it would not surprise me to see him back in and actually win the damn Rose Bowl game, considering the Big 10 is really not impressive on offense...
Can't wait to see what the SoCal media has to say...

by RScal on Nov 24, 2007 11:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Dilettantes

You guys have gotta realize that there are a great many UCLA fans who are dilettantes, superannuated pussbags who wouldn't know the finer points of the game of college football nor the appreciate the internecine struggles that go on for control of a major university's athletic department.

Like lizards and other scaly reptiles they sun themselves at the Rose bowl; they consume vast quantities of Pabst Blue Ribbon, and think sixteen-zip is just dandy over a team sans a potential Heisman awardee who was the glue, the heart and soul of a team that almost made it to #1 in the land.

They sit there puking and mewling about what a shame it would be to let that fine young man go who has brought them this brief moment in the warm, late-November sun.

They are perfectly happy with three field goals from turnovers and a gimme touchdown.

"But he's such a fine young man, now that he doesn't stuff that clipboard down his crotch anymore.."

..and so it goes.

by whp68 on Nov 24, 2007 11:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

You said it

It has become painfully clear that essentially every Dorrellista will do whatever it takes to not disturb their "good time" at the Rose Bowl every autumn. As long as they have a good time, nothing else matters, so screw all the other fans who care about fielding a winning team. Screw the fans who want a well disciplined, well coached team. Screw the fans who have higher aspirations for a perennially underachieving program, because what they (we) want would mean bigger RB crowds, maybe higher ticket prices, and a cramp on an old fashioned beer swilling afternoon in the parking lot followed up by 3 1/2 hours of mediocre/good/bad/who-the-hell-knows-cause-I'm-drunk football. They're afraid of higher expectations, because then they might have to care. They might have to feel some pride in the team.

Dorrellistas care about what goes on outside of the stadium. We care about what goes on within it. What does our administration care about? We will find out in a week.

by Tydides on Nov 25, 2007 12:13 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

UCLA Football

If KD does not get the boot, I'm done with UCLA Football. That'll be a clear message to me that they don't give a s**t. That's their perogative I guess.

by BlueReign on Nov 24, 2007 11:58 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

THe chances of KD's team beating the Trojans

is about the same as GWBush volunteering to fight in Iraq...Calm down...that scenario is not happening. It is a moot point. The only thing that counts is the Monday Press Conference where Dorrell is FIRED!

by Gary72 on Nov 25, 2007 8:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Actually

I see lot of scenarios in which we beat SuC.

TrOJan offense is not all that. Their QB is not very mobile (not very smart). Their RBs do not scare me. And they have sick talent at receivers, but none of them are invincible.

Our defense is perfectly capable of hitting them in the chin, get their predictable pro-set O all rattled. And I can see us scoring some opportune points on offense.

This is the kind of game losers Lavin and Duhrell pull out over teams that have more talent, but eminently beatable.

So I see us being those losers. What I want to make sure that even if we beat those SCums, Duhrell is still let go next week.

by Nestor on Nov 25, 2007 8:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone remember last year?

USC penciled into the NC game. UCLA 6-5 with talk about firing Dorrell, coming off of a big win. SC totally overlooked us and we won. SC was better last year than they are this year. Their offense is not good this year. We can definately shut them down as long as we blitz often. As for offense...well maybe we can get a pick six...or slater could take one back. We probably won't win, but I seriously doubt it will be a blowout. We can definately win next week, and anyone who doesn't think so is crazy.

that being said...we should still fire dorrell

by bruinfan319 on Nov 25, 2007 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

but since this is a KD team

remember that KD teams usually lose games they're supposed to win and win games they're supposed to lose.

by AZBruin on Nov 25, 2007 9:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Dorrell's incompetence has destroyed rational

thought...Get serious, last year was at the Rose Bowl, against a team that totally overlooked UCLA. This year the game is at the pit and against a team that has a chip on its shoulder about last year. Given the talent discrepency, coaching discrepency, motivational discrepency, a win is not even worth speculating. While as a true alum I wish for a win and a firing next week, I will accept the latter. As for the comments by Tydides regarding the Dorrellistas, he is absolutely correct. I gave up my 30 years of football season tickets because of both the Dorrell incompetence and disgust for being around those who could care less about what happens on the field. All they cared about was what they could eat and drink outside the stadium. Also, the average age of Dorrelistas seemed to be death(not that there is anything wrong with that <:). My only pleasure last year was wearing my Dump Dorrell tee shirt and aggravating the Dorrelistas. I just got tired of dealing with both of them...

by Gary72 on Nov 25, 2007 2:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Dorrelllista age

I'm surprised that the Dorrellistas are old. I would have figured just the opposite. Teenagers and freshmen or sophomores who have only known crap. Those of Geezer age (and Gary, I take it that the 72 has something to do with when you graduated or your age) generally have memories of when the sun was shining on the football field.

by Fox 71 on Nov 25, 2007 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs