The Donahue Curse
Rebumped. I was going to write a post which would start with recounting the nightmare from Donahue years. Instead of reinventing the wheel, rebumping this post from November 7, 2007. While I am supporting of Rick Neuheisel, I hope he understands that if he wants to break away from the the culture of mediocrity that has engulfed UCLA football for more than a decade, he needs to break away from the legancy and mindset left behind by Typhoid Terry. GO BRUINS. - N
Bruin Blue with a must read post on Typhoid Terry who is working OT to play the violin for CTS. GO BRUINS. -N
A number of UCLA alumni and fans have at least some positive things to say about Terry Donahue. I do not. I have nothing against Donahue as a person; but I hated him as a football coach. And I mean hated. From the first season, when he was totally outcoached by John Robinson in the conference decider, and then embarrassed the university by not even showing up against Alabama in the Liberty Bowl, I knew that he was a mediocre-at-best coach who was going to hide behind UCLA's talent and natural advantages over most of the teams in this conference, and probably last a long time. I didn't know how long, of course. I still regret the loss of that 20 years of my football fan life. Following UCLA football has never been the same for me after that experience. Year after year of essentially nothing; losing to almost all the good teams, trudging to victory over the bad ones; never competing for a national title, despite a host of Pro-Bowl-type players. And on and on and on it went.
I know that some will argue; and point to the Rose Bowls (four in twenty years), and the other Bowl wins, and the victories over USC at the end. I used to be more vehement about such arguments, but it's so dreary to relive that now, that I seem to lack the energy. Otherwise, I could tell you stories about some of the most pathetic, cowardly, stupid decisions ever made on a football field. Well, just to make my point, and for the sake of amusement, I'll give you three.: In 1978, UCLA was loaded, with Theotis Brown, James Owens and Freeman MacNeil as offensive threats; Jerry Robinson and Kenny Easley on defense. Donahue managed to lose to a Kansas team which ended up 1-9 Later, he played an Oregon State team which finished 3-7. OSU had no offense at all; only a really good field goal kicker and a good punter. In typical Donahue fashion, the Bruins had slogged to something like a 12-10 lead, entering the fourth quarter. There was a strong wind which was against UCLA in the last quarter; but even knowing that, Donahue had played as conservatively as possible in the third. So in the fourth, what does Donahue do but continue to run the ball into the line on every play, apparently fearing something awful will happen if he throws it. What happens is that on each change of possession, UCLA gets pushed back further and further; as their punter, with the wind, keeps outkicking ours. Finally, with about eight minutes to go, UCLA is stuck back on its four yard line. Donahue, acting like a bad poker player who keeps betting the same amount on the same bad hand, has the team run three more conservative plays, leading to a punt. The punt goes about thirty yards, and OSU gets the ball on our 38. They run three plays for a couple of yards, and their FG kicker then kicks the winning field goal.
The second is a game against Oregon in 1980, I believe. (Rich Brooks, of all things, coaching Uof O). UCLA is on probation that year, so even for Donahue, who loved to play for ties, there was no reason not to go all-out..And remember, there was no overtime back then. Anyway, Oregon is leading 20-14 with about six minutes to go. UCLA drives down to the Oregon 27, where it's 4th and 3. With what thought in his head, we will never know, Donahue has the team kick a field goal, to make it 20-17. Oregon gets the kickoff and is able to run out the clock. I can only imagine that Donahue was thinking, "Well, a field goal is three points, and if we kick it we are only down three. Then if we get the ball back with a couple of minutes to go, we can perhaps kick another field goal and end up with a tie." Here is one more. In 1989, UCLA is having a dreadful season. They are playing Washington, who the week before had lost to USC, thus knocking themselves out of the Rose Bowl. In that game, Don James could have played for the tie late, but needing the win, went for it and lost. Well, in this game which now meant nothing but pride to either team, UCLA surprisingly got ahead early, 21-0 Washington rallied to cut it to 24-21. Late in the fourth quarter, UCLA went on a potential game-clinching drive. First and goal on the UW 6, Donahue did what he always did--run three plays into the line. Now there were less than 3 minutes to go. Donahue had the team kick a FG to make it 27-21. Now, what did this accomplish? In Donahue's limited mind, it meant three more points. In the mind of anyone else, it meant nothing, because Washington wasn't going to go down and kick a FG to play for a tie (again, no OT then). So what happened was that UCLA kicked off, Washington ran it back to about the 45, and went down to score the winning TD, 28-27.
I hope those stories were interesting. There are more.
Those who did not live through that era cannot possibly comprehend how unbelievably, suffocatingly stupid and cowardly Donahue's coaching was. But then again; perhaps you indeed can. For incredibly enough, you are seeing it repeated, in slightly different form, in the coaching of Donahue's disciple, Karl Dorrell. The only difference is that Donahue (and his great recruiting coordinator Bill Rees) brought in better players, so he could mostly beat the bad teams on the schedule. And every once in a while Donahue managed to bring Homer Smith in to save his offense. Other than that, though. it is eerily similar. Steve Axman was there. Bob Field. All the legends which helped make the Donahue era what it was. And believe me, the Donahue era is still very much with us.
For apart from the various games, the lack of fundamentals, the strategic blunders, the major import of the Donahue nightmare was what it did to the psyche of UCLA football. Before Donahue, expectations had been high in Westwood. Tommy Prothro was an unlucky coach, because with even decent luck, he could easily have gone to four Rose Bowls in six years here. He did finish in the Top Ten four times. Pepper Rodgers was 17-5 in his last two seasons and was essentially run out of town for not being able to beat USC. Ah, those were the days. Dick Vermeil won the Rose Bowl and finished #5 in his second year. And then along came Donahue. In the middle of his tenure, Donahue said, "Winning a National Championship is not a realistic goal at UCLA.." Donahue made up every excuse to make this a self-fulfilling prophecy. He blamed steroids for his teams' inability to beat Oklahoma and Nebraska (1-7 against them). He once said that the L.A. riots had hurt his recruiting. Every Spring, without fail, Donahue would be quoted by the Times as to how injuries had just decimated his club for the Fall. It was Donahue who started this nonsense about the only thing that mattered here was competing for the Pac-10 title. This was undoubtedly because his record against ranked OOC teams was about .250. What Donahue did was to lower the bar to where his typical 7-3-1 season was sufficient. UCLA stopped being the national power that they had been under Prothro, and became a program which simply settled for hanging around the #15-20 range year after year.
And essentially that's where we've been ever since. Yes, we had that one glorious run under Toledo, and then fell back. We've had worse seasons, of course; as our talent edge has dissipated. But the essential motif of the Donahue years has sunk into the Bruin psyche so much that most of our fans have become inured to hoping for those 7 or 8 wins to call it a successful season. How else could our current coach who has lost six games in three of his first four years still be here? Surely he wouldn't have been at any one of twenty major programs; and not at the UCLA of 40 years ago. But because of Donahue, his disciple Karl Dorrell is not held to any significant standards. Four more losses this year and people are still arguing for him to be given another chance. That's all a residue of the Donahue years.
I think that Donahue is still very much with us. Not just psychologically, either. He has his fingerprints very much on this program. He has his corps of acolytes in the Morgan Center; and of course his cadre of ex-players: Norrie, Stevens, Cook. They are always the ones who argue for patience with the current coach; they are always telling everyone that UCLA has all these disadvantages relative to other programs; and that expectations are too high in Westwood. It is as if they are all the pod people in "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," because they always say the same thing; and they are completely wedded to the Donahue philosophy. They are the ones who get the UCLA color and postgame jobs; and they all repeat the mantra over and over, until the press media believes it. And now, as five years ago, when it might be time to choose another coach, here they and Donahue are, somehow using their almost hypnotic influence to suggest someone from their cult. Rich Brooks, who of course was one of Donahue's assistants here in the '70's, and who was supposed to be Dalis' replacement hire had Donahue taken the Atlanta Falcons job.. They are running out of names, but here they have found another one. It was a setback for them that Greg Robinson had gotten hired by Syracuse, thus exposing his ineptitude, or assuredly Robinson would have been right on top of the list this time. They still have Johnny Lynn; maybe Dick Tomey. Ron Carragher was Brooks' OC at Kentucky. Like the sinister members of a cult, they spread out across the country, only to be called back when the master needs them. And what does Donahue need now? Why, to keep his own legacy where he wants it. Should UCLA ever hire a big-time coach, it might actually become clear to too many people just how mediocre the Donahue era really was. If UCLA ever actually starts competing for national titles, the comparisons to Donahue's regime will not be positive for him.
Okay, perhaps I'm being a little bit overdramatic for effect. Donahue is not a sinister person, just an inordinately sensitive one who happens to know too little about coaching and finding coaches. My fondest wish is that he would somehow go far away from this program, and take all his minions with him. They have poisoned the well of UCLA football, far more than any basketball coach ever did to that program. Harrick is good-natured enough to be a big fan of Ben Howland; and Lavin, as awful as he was, really never brainwashed the Bruin alumni to accepting his brand of ridiculous underachievement, just the A.D. and Chancellor. But Donahue did manage to completely change the mindset in Westwood, and we are still suffering from its effects now. And as far as I am concerned, our biggest barrier to actually hiring the kind of coach we are all hoping for, is Donahue--in person, by dint of his cult of supporters, and by virtue of the effect he still has on far too many people in the UCLA world. When you hear that Rich Brooks is being mentioned as a possible replacement for Dorrell, you have to know that this is the Donahue effect being felt again. When there is a long thead in another forum suggesting that UCLA consider hiring Donahue again now, you feel as if you are in an H.P Lovecraft nightmare. The Donahue curse must be lifted once and for all, if we are ever going to travel out of the gloom into the sunlight.
-Bruin Blue
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Great Analysis
by Bruin77 on Nov 8, 2007 9:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
TD and why he had any success
Homer, who had been the HC at Army, but was an offensive genius at the time, did not aspire to expose TD by becoming HC, and when he was the OC, UCLA did have some good teams that beat SC, and won Rose Bowls. Homer came and went and came and went. He was from Alabama and his wife liked it there, so he "managed" his life as long as he could to be an excellent OC for UCLA, TD secure that Homer would not take his slot, and UCLA more or less propered. One time when Homer retired, and Aikman was finally eligible, TD hired Steve Axman to run the offense, from Stanford. It was ironic but regrettable that Homer didn't coach Aikman at UCLA, and when Aikman graduated, Axman was fired, Homer returned, and they had more OC success.
Later when TD faced Tollner and Hackett, and Homer was gone, he mailed it in, and still beat SC, so the alums loved him, worshipped his do-do, and he stayed just as long as he wanted.
Overall a mediocre career at UCLA with lowered expectations for the program, fueled by a friendly Pete Dalis (the former intramural towel manager), and a weak presence across town. But, times have changed, there is a new AD in town, DG, and I firmly believe he is not of the opinion that UCLA is other than a national power-to-be in football.
Bill
by Mensgym on Nov 8, 2007 9:30 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I believe TD came along with Pepper Rogers
by bruinhawk on Nov 8, 2007 11:32 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
After all these years
Also I don't want a retread like Brooks at UCLA.
by bluestreet on Nov 8, 2007 9:51 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting take . . .
Also, regarding his influence in today's decisions in Morgan Center, I do not believe for one minute that Dan Guerrero is going to let anyone get in the way of his hiring who he wants this go around. He saw what happened last time and will not make that mistake again. Plus he has earned quite a bit of credibility with his hiring of Howland and Savage.
by Forearm Shiver on Nov 8, 2007 10:23 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
"well prepared"?
In his last four years except for the memorable wins against (awful SuC teams) Donahue's teams sucked donkey balls.
I think we must have been watching different games.
by bluestreet on Nov 8, 2007 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is no question . . .
by Forearm Shiver on Nov 8, 2007 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I was at that RB
by gorams77 on Nov 8, 2007 5:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen!
In the early 90's, our chant in the band during most games was "run up the middle, run up the middle, run up the middle, and punt!"
by AZBruin on Nov 8, 2007 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Our chant
by tasser10 on Nov 9, 2007 8:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Memo to ASU staff
Sorry to spill the beans, Bruins fans.
by Barnes2JJ on Nov 9, 2007 8:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Donahue never failed to dissapoint -
Does someone recall the 'SC game in the late 70's (78 I think) when the Bruins scored late in the 4th Q on a long pass to pull within a single score (10-17?). There were about 3 minutes on the clock, and everyone naturally was looking for the obvious onside kick.
There was a stunned silence folowed by boos when the Bruins lined up and kicked deep! Donahue actually thought the Bruins would hold the Toejams for a 3-and-out! Of course 'SC used up the remaining time.
I thought he overstayed by about 6 years.
He was fortunate to have started the win streak against 'SC band give us Cade and some other promising recruits but did little else in the way of coaching to raise the team out of mediocrity in his final years.
by bruinhawk on Nov 8, 2007 11:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This post explains so much!!
I didn't understand it at the time, but this post explains so much: The fear of Victory, the bruised egos and psyche of the Bruin family, everything.
Let's not let this happen again: Hire Steve Spurrier!
by MexiBruin on Nov 8, 2007 10:47 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Excellent post
This is why I will always have a soft spot for soft body Toledo. I know his last couple of years were awful, but he was not conservative. His teams played fun, exciting football. And his attitude of playing for the NC was, simply, heroic in my mind.
Great job.
by Barnes2JJ on Nov 8, 2007 10:55 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
BT just didn't seem quite the same after
Wasn't there some rumor concerning a "Cade" curse '98 'SC game when Paul Hackett was upset and complained about Cade still being in at the end and actually running for yardage instead of taking a knee?
by bruinhawk on Nov 8, 2007 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I Agree on Toledo
by Bruin77 on Nov 8, 2007 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Toledo
by SinnerBoy 99 on Nov 8, 2007 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I want an experienced HC...
Heck no on Rich Brooks.
M
by Meriones on Nov 8, 2007 11:20 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hard to believe TD was there 20 years!
When I started at UCLA in the fall of '89, it was arguably one of the worst football seasons in Westwood, 3-7-1. Horrible, horrible season. about five or six of those losses could have been won, thanks to Donahue's style.
There's a reason, Niner fans today in SF are suffering: His name? Terry Donahue. Once TD got his hands on that program, it went south. They're trying to rebuild it now, but with little luck.
I second what the above fellow alum said about Toledo. He did some good things, he spiced it up a bit. Probably not enough focus on defense, but his offenses were pretty potent.
Go Bruins!
by wsmontano1994 on Nov 8, 2007 11:24 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Just like Coach Toast, I don't recall TD taking
by bruinhawk on Nov 8, 2007 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not trying . . .
by Forearm Shiver on Nov 8, 2007 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Donahue was a whiner
by bluestreet on Nov 8, 2007 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Best Thing About Bret Johnson Leaving
by Bruin77 on Nov 8, 2007 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, that clears things up. Maddox did pretty
Too bad Maddox was lured early to the NFL. I can only immagine how the 92 & 93 seasons would have come out had he stayed.
by bruinhawk on Nov 8, 2007 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
actually...
Bret Johnson sucked so badly in 1989 that TD opened up the QB competition the next spring. He lost to none other than Jim Bonds (not to be confused with James Bond). [I was acquaintances w/ Bonds' then-girlfriend so I remember her elation when he was given the starter's role]... Bret whined about it and transferred, as you stated. Fall of 1990, Bonds I believe was hurt early in the season, TD let an unknown Tommmy Maddox into the game and the rest is history.
Maddox was a true gunslinger. Had he stuck around, he would likely have done much better in the NFL.
by wsmontano1994 on Nov 8, 2007 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right about Bonds, I think he had a
Seems we had a lot of QB's go down with injuries throughout the decades. And some who should have never played QB - Steve Bukich anyone?
We were fortunate to have Cade make it through four years unscathed. Sure'd like to have another one like him.
by bruinhawk on Nov 8, 2007 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
by lostnacfgop on Nov 9, 2007 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right about Tommy
by gorams77 on Nov 8, 2007 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Shiver,
And as some of us grizzled ones recall, Rob Johnson made a corny vow to beat UCLA as payback for the wrong done to his bro.
"Hey Rob, how'd that revenge angle work out for ya?"
Okay that was mean. Funny, tho'
by lostnacfgop on Nov 9, 2007 10:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What a sad story
(1) The mediocre finish to his career helped a whole generation of Bruins view .500 records as the norm. In 7 seasons after Aikman left, he went 44-35-1, managed only two seasons of more than 7 wins, and went 1-2 in only 3 bowl appearances. Those 2 seasons of more than 7 wins were 1991, 9-3, which was aided by our not having to play co-#1-ranked Washington and ended with an ugly, conservative win against the Illini where I was so angry about TD's settling for FGs that fellow fans told me I should not be wearing UCLA letters and I went shirtless in the 30-degree weather, and 1993, 9-4, which ended with a loss to an inferior Wisconsin team in a sea of red at the Rose Bowl. His other 5 seasons, the team went a combined 26-28-1. Mediocrity by definition.
(2) So many specific games where Donahue's conservatism killed our chances to win and killed our spirits, two that specifically scarred me: 1989 USC, the 10-10 tie after TD calls 3 straight running plays when we advance to USC's 35, resulting in a net two-yard loss that was key when Velasco's 54-yd FG hit the crossbar; and the 1991 Sun Bowl mentioned above (basically like the 1989 UW game, only Illinois didn't score a TD in the end thanks to Arnold Ale.
If you consider his last 7 years, Donahue is as bad as Dorrell, both would register about a 2 on a scale of 10. If you consider the 80s, Donahue grades higher. The bottom line here is that Donahue's last 7 years were unacceptable and should have led to his being fired before he took the CBS announcing gig. Because the end was so bad, we should not consider his opinion in hiring a new coach, much like Florida did not ask Ron Zook to help them hire Meyer, Ohio State didn't ask for John Cooper's opinion and USC didn't ask for Robinson, Hackett or Smith to weigh in on Carroll.
by BruinsRule on Nov 8, 2007 11:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
SF 49ers
by dana on Nov 8, 2007 12:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
uh no
F' Donahue.
by Nestor on Nov 8, 2007 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As O jave said before,
by Fox 71 on Nov 8, 2007 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Lead Sitting
by 1984again on Nov 8, 2007 1:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Donahue drove everybody crazy
by Oldguy on Nov 8, 2007 1:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Mixed Feelings
In the final analysis, Donahue simply stayed on too long; trying to ride the coattails of some of the earlier success he had at Westwood. Now is Dan Guerrero's chance to hire a big name coach; someone who can really take us to that next level; where we're competing for conference titles, B.C.S. bowl games AND NC's on a consistent basis. My hunch is that DG, having already snared a great coach like Ben Howland, will do it again.
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 8, 2007 6:33 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
A Correction.......
by Minnesota Bruinfan on Nov 8, 2007 6:50 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, horse ****!
But aside from singling out a handful of chunked performances over twenty freaking years your post proves zip in my mind, and I've been watching bruin ball since '67.
Tell me, without Donahue, what is the winning tradition of Bruin Football, besides those seven magical "Red" Sanders years?
Gonna sell me Bill Barnes?
George Dickerson?
Tommy Prothro stayed barely long enough for a second cup of coffee.
Pepper Rodgers? 3 seasons, a few upsets, the Wishbone.
Dick "I love you guys" Vermiel? 2 seasons.
The worst two things Donahue did AS A COACH was
- stay probably 5 years too long (burnout - it's for real)
- Get too weirded out during $C week. Can you blame him?
So, IMHO, get the hell off of Terry D, peeps. He oughta shut up about the failed experiment, and it would've been great if he'd won a title. He did pretty damn good. "nuff said. Go ahead, banish me if you want, I was there for a lot of those years and I know what the hell I'm talking about.
by lostnacfgop on Nov 8, 2007 7:41 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was there also
by Gary72 on Nov 8, 2007 8:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well, Gary
'88 sucked rocks. He had WSU at the half by 20 points IIRC, only to lose to loud mouth Rosenbach. I remember one hot pass over the middle in particular - Bruin D had 8 in the box and the DBs showing blitz and Timmeh just burned the ball into a wideout on a 5 - 7 yard slant, and presto 65 yrd TD. And they'd tried the play at least twice before, just missing it. But you forget the $C game that year which was also lost, also led by a Heisman candidate (Peete was no Aikman, but he did hang on in the NFL for quite awhile). The year ended with a drubbing of Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl (pre BCS, okay, but a helluva long way from playing for peanuts in San Fran). The same D that got jacked by WSU and $C held the Razorbacks to negative yards rushing.
My point was that it's fine to rag on Donahue for defending Mr .Excitement. That is indefensible. Too often Donehue is lumped into the same category as Dorrell as a coach, yet, the worst anything can say about him is that "he coulda shoulda woulda" done better. He DID better, far better than Dorrell has, and earned his place in Bruin FB history. I think it cheapens the argument (that Dorrell needs to be gone) - and undercuts credibility by taking so many gratuitous shots at a coach whose been gone for 12 years, and whose paper record is pretty d**n good.
by lostnacfgop on Nov 9, 2007 5:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well Said
As to the USC game (was it in '88??), I hang that loss on Eric Ball, who fumbled trying to go over the top from the 1 yard line and a sure TD that would have put the game away (if I remember correctly). Troy Aikman listed in his biggest regrets as a football player (when he was enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame) the fact that his two teams never beat USC. Well said Troy, and I'm glad you realize the significance. But we did not lose those games because of Terry Donahue.
Today TD should keep quiet. Surely he realizes the product that is being put on the field is far inferior from what he was delivering (before he overstayed that is), and not acceptable by UCLA standards. He realizes a change likely needs to be made. I know it hurts him because Karl Dorrell was one of his players and he was a good player and is a good man.
That being said, while I have gone on record as saying a change needs to be made, I will also say that if Dorrell can find a way to victory in the next three games and bring home a Rose Bowl, I will give him another year. This will rankle a good many of you, but logic dictates that in this "Show-Me" season, a Rose Bowl will mean Dorrell delivered (and it wouldn't matter to me how ugly it was to get there). Now we all know the odds of this happening are astronomical, but if he can find a way, then surely he must be retained. Our talent alone will not be enough to produce these three victories. He must dig down deep and deliver as a coach to make it happen. Good luck Karl, I will be rooting for you. (because it is not in my DNA to root against the Bruins)
by Forearm Shiver on Nov 9, 2007 8:32 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Forearm, thanks
As for your offer of one more year in exchange for 4 straight victories? Jeez, the cynical part of me won't stop laughing long enough to seriously consider the proposal. Not wishing this on you, but you're more likely to be struck by lightning while holding the winning 150 million dollar powerball ticket in a late-Spring Burbank blizzard.
by lostnacfgop on Nov 9, 2007 10:27 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I can still hold out hope can't I?
ASU is a huge longshot, but we are playing at home and I am hoping for a miracle. The oddsmakers (who usually have a way of knowing) say ASU is only a 6 1/2 point favorite. This means they feel we will likely be in the game.
Mike Belotti just mentioned that Oregon is razor thin in depth at the moment due to injuries. We will be coming off a bye and maybe have BO available to redeem himself.
SC is SC. They are beatable this year. Anything can, and will happen.
So please allow me to just hold out hope - if only just for a few more hours.
by Forearm Shiver on Nov 9, 2007 11:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
H-O-P-E
by tasser10 on Nov 9, 2007 11:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunate
Go Bruins!
by Forearm Shiver on Nov 9, 2007 2:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh lord I feel like . . .
nuff said
by lostnacfgop on Nov 9, 2007 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"UP THE MIDDLE!...AGAIN!"
i do remember yelling that at games i saw in person and even those on tv, while CTD was our head coach….DONAHUE was not a genius coach…up the middle was his mantra on many plays…we had some great players and some wonderful teams that i still believe underachieved back then…hum…sounds like now too…
by bruincheerleader on Oct 18, 2009 11:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I remember a game against Oregon
under the Toledo regime. This is with DeShaun Foster mind you, and Oregon said publicly before the game they were going to stack the box and force “Who ever replaced McNown” to beat them. Sure enough Toledo ran the ball up the middle time and time again for an ungodly amount of 3 and outs.
A coach is someone who can give correction without causing resentment. John Wooden
by MexiBruin on Oct 18, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terry.
I just remember 5 years of draw plays for no gain.
by Bruin'96 on Oct 18, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
dragging out the old TD pinata, again?
I’m not picking up my stick, though. Okay, maybe a little.
Yeah, there were things about yesterday’s game that were reminiscent of the TD conservatism, yes. I also sat there thinking of Chuck Knox’s old LA Rams, too – although they at least played defense. Ours slept longer than a few minutes yesterday. Actually, they looked narcoleptic at times – one minute alert and agressive, the next minute bang, out cold and then pointlessly chasing Best and Vereen
TD’s conservatism was at times as incomprehensible as it was indefensible, true. At least two of Cal’s TDs yesterday were blatant examples of a-w-f-u-l defensive execution (Best’s 93 yard run -looked like OJ there in ‘67 for minute, and the Touchdown pass at the end of the first half come to mind). What Coach Rick needs to do is let the players have the opportunity to make plays. Forbath is a great kicker – no argument – but when a kicker becomes (or is) your most potent offensive weapon, it’s time to tattoo “L” on your forehead. Not gonna win many games that way.
I get that CRN’s recruits are only two years old, and he deservedly gets time to build the program his way, but at the halfway point of this season, one troubling thing is that he cannot shake Dorrellian entropy – the inescapable trend of the preceding coach’s tenure to field teams which get worse over the course of a season and not better. TD’s legacy was to inexplicably blow winnable games by playing not to lose – and do so at crucial moments. Dorrell’s problem was that seasonal progress was an oxymoron.
Right now, only WSU looks “winnable” if the focus and whole effort level and intensity don’t ramp up – and yet even the WSU game is in Pullman in November. 3-9 is possible, and that would be a monumental backward step.
The Mad Bruin
by lostnacfgop on Oct 18, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is an excellent piece.
Dismantling the mythology of the Donahue era is critical to the turnaround effort. Nicely done.
by DexterFishmore on Oct 18, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
T. Donohue
The Donohue record is a myth. Homer Smith is the SOLE reason why TD had the record he had. Check the TD record in years Homer was at UCLA and the years when he was not. The true TD record is best shown when you see how well the SF 49’s did NOT do when TD was 100% in charge. TD also would NOT advance Neuheisel saying he was too young and not experienced. BAD judgement!! Give RN a couple more years and he WILL get it done.
by Lee B on Oct 19, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
TD/HS
Homer Smith was TD’s OC for the 1980 through 1986 seasons and again for the 1990 through 1993 seasons. During these seasons UCLA went 87-37-5 (.694) and included some of the “notorious” bowl games that some folks like to bitch about, ie. 16-21 loss to Wisconsin in the ‘94 RB, 6-3 win over Illinois in the ’91 Sun Bowl, and the 14-33 loss to Michigan in the ’81 Bluebonnet.
In TD’s nine years without Homer, UCLA went 64-37-3 (.630) including an “upset” 10-10 tie of Arkansas in the ‘78 Fiesta, and victories over Florida and Arkansas following the ’87 and ’88 seasons.
I have alway thought very highly of Homer Smith and still do, but would disagree with the idea that he was “the SOLE reason” for any success UCLA had during TD’s tenure.
by bru79 on Oct 19, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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