New Housegate evidence from Yahoo! investigation

by MbahABako on Nov 9, 2007 8:38 AM PST

Surprised that I haven't seen anything about this on BN yet this morning, but it is something that needs to be looked at. The boys over at Yahoo, who have absolutely been on top of the shady situation involving Bush and his agent friends and done a fantastic job with it (something we couldn't count on the SC Times to do), come with some new information this morning -- and characterizing it as explosive would be a gross understatement.

Click here for the full Yahoo story

The relevant/damning parts include:

Audio recordings that allegedly establish an improper financial relationship between former USC running back Reggie Bush and a would-be sports marketing agent were played for NCAA investigators this week, sources told Yahoo! Sports. Audio recordings? Those are going to be very difficult for Mr. House to defend, especially if his voice is all over them. Wonder how Petey is gonna try to spin this one? Yahoo! Sports also has learned that the NCAA requested and has been given phone records of USC officials, including coaches, as part of the investigation. Could this go further up the chain? We can only hope. I think it would definitely be par for the course, given SC's history of shenanigans with their football program.

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Niiiiiice

Nada in the LA Slimes today about this (that I saw). No surprise there.

Good work. Keep on this story everyone.

by Barnes2JJ on Nov 9, 2007 8:41 AM PST 0 recs

Per Collin Cowheard and a guest?

were talking and unless they can say that SC or Pete knew about the arrangements than nothing will happen to SC since it was not anyone tied to the program. Whereas OU rhett bomar? was working for a booster of the football program.

by ChaffeyBruin on Nov 9, 2007 9:23 AM PST 0 recs

Dogfight McNair

is the link to SUC that could get them busted. I'd say their RB coach is reasonably connected to SUC.

by Tydides on Nov 9, 2007 9:26 AM PST up 0 recs

I read somewhere...

...that McNair and Bush used to go out partying in SD, and McNair knew that Bush was staying in $500 a night hotel rooms while at Southern Cal.

I think the standard is "knew or should have known..."

by Ajax on Nov 9, 2007 10:05 AM PST up 0 recs

Correct

Of course no one currently affiliated with SUC will say that they knew anything, or to quote McNair: "I don't know nothing"

It will come down to should have known. Hence there will be some speculation involved. Not a done deal yet, but the SUCsters should be concerned.

"If I don't do my job, I will get fired" -Karl Dorrell

by godblesstyus95 on Nov 9, 2007 11:30 AM PST up 0 recs

of course something will happen

if you use an eligible athlete, even if you didn't know, you have to forfeit the games the played in.

SUC may or may not get punished prospectively, but they most certainly will have to forfeit games and in 04 and 05

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 9, 2007 10:43 AM PST up 0 recs

damn should have used the preview

i meant used an ineligible player, not eligible. Duh!!

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Nov 9, 2007 11:38 AM PST up 0 recs

I do that about every other post

Or I have my fingers on the wrong row and put up something that looks like code.

by Fox 71 on Nov 9, 2007 1:11 PM PST up 0 recs

Even when your fingers are in the right place,

your stuff often looks like code to me.

Mad Cow's you know.

sjh

by Class of 66 on Nov 9, 2007 4:19 PM PST up 0 recs

Thank you, sjh

And as the old saying goes, "jhkiuownvkll jklj,.c -" You see what I mean, of course.

by Fox 71 on Nov 9, 2007 6:35 PM PST up 0 recs

ReggieGate

I guess the Yahoo! guys were right when they posted this in the first place (proving the Trojan doubters wrong).

If you'll recall, the tapes at issue reportedly contained the following:

Yahoo! Sports has learned that LaMar Griffin spoke with federal investigators in the spring of 2006 and acknowledged the existence of the tapes. In an appearance before a grand jury on Jan. 12, 2007, Lake's mother Barbara Gunner testified that she had heard portions of tapes made by her son, in which LaMar Griffin states that Bush intended to repay New Era Sports financiers "their money," as well as for a car that was purchased for the former USC running back.

Multiple sources told Yahoo! Sports that Lake made the tapes in late 2005 to protect his financial investment if Bush backed out of their alleged agreement. New Era's goal of landing Bush as a client officially failed when Bush signed to be represented by agent Joel Segal and marketing agent Mike Ornstein in January of 2006.

Apparently, Reggie didn't pay Lake "his money", and is selfish enough to sell Southern Cal down the river rather than settle before the evidence got to the NCAA.

And all this, just to have a short run with Ornstein, who Bush fired\ other day (and who, ironically, just signed up Matt Leinart, aka, Mr. Deadbeat Dad).

Finally, it's really funny to me that some Trojies are still clinging to the notion that USC didn't have any knowledge of this. It's already been reported that the Animal Lover, er, Todd McNair, knew something about the arrangement. And Southern Cal already has an illustrious history of letting only the best character guys run around with the team, from double murderers dropping by practices to dangerous rap moguls dropping by games.

Whether or not the NCAA will have the will to connect the rather obvious dots may be another thing, but it will be fun to see what happens now that good 'ole Reggie has decided to sell out his "Trojan Family" rather than pay out a few hundred G's of his endorsement money.

by Menelaus on Nov 9, 2007 12:28 PM PST 0 recs

Forfeiting games

Let's hope the UCLA/SC game forfeit will occur after KD's fate is decided, as in clean out your desk. Otherwise, the sheep will bellow that he won more games and needs another year to "grow and learn".
Bill

BillSouthBay

by BillSouthBay on Nov 9, 2007 1:26 PM PST 0 recs

MS Paint FTW

by Karakand on Nov 9, 2007 2:34 PM PST 0 recs

Just noticed little this gem from the Yahoo story

Todd Dickey is justsc's general counsel. It seems clear that he has never litigated. Maybe he has, but it doesn't look like it. He seems miffed that his lackeys, I mean, the NCAA investigators, didn't let him sit in on the meeting at which Lake's lawyers emptied their bag. This is from the Yahoo story:

"USC general counsel Todd Dickey declined to comment, saying it is strict policy not to say anything about ongoing investigations.

But Dickey said USC was not allowed to sit in on the interview with Lake despite asking to take part. The school has participated in previous interviews regarding this case.

'USC was not permitted to participate in the Lloyd Lake interview,' Dickey said via email. 'We have repeatedly requested that USC be allowed to participate in every interview and every aspect of this investigation.'"

Pardon me, Mr. Dickey, but are you just arrogant, just stupid or both? Why on earth should you get to sit in on an interview with the key witness on the other side, when that key witness is suing your guy? The Yahoo article said that Lake's lawyer was a concerned that what he said might get back to bu$h's lawyers. Ya think?

But Mr. Dickey sounds so surprised and put off by the fact that he was kept out of the meeting. How's this, Mr. Dickey. How about letting me or one of my brothers or sisters at the BN sit in on your meetings. Or let us go through your files on bu$h before they get shredded (assuming they haven't already been). Or let us sit in on the meetings where the guys get told just how they get paid, and how to hide their money, etc. Or maybe we can sit in the spin room while the spin meisters figure out how to make up into down and black into white.

Mr. Dickey, eventually you will wish you hadn't sold out to the Dark Side. We would welcome you back to the real world, and will not even ask you to violate the attorney-client privilege and tell all you know. But don't sound so teary and petulant about not being allowed to peek into your adversary's file. Frankly, you sound a little like Bill and Ted when you do.

by Fox 71 on Nov 10, 2007 9:14 AM PST 0 recs