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CHOKER or Walker = No 3rd Chance For Dan Guerrero

As noted by Quickhands, the guys over at CoachesHotSeatblog (who throughout this season piled up pretty good record on astute observations re the coaching scene in college football) have come out and blasted the ongoing UCLA coaching search process to date as a `great disappointment':

UCLA - This has been another coaching search full of leaks.  Next thing I am going to read in the LA papers is that Dan Guerrero has gone to the bathroom and on his way back to his office he took a call from another coach that wanted to talk about the UCLA job.  Are these LA reporters camped out in Guerrero's office, or is there someone at UCLA who calls up these reporters every time someone makes a move on the coaching search front?  Why the people at UCLA feel the need to broadcast their every move is beyond us, but these are also the people that immediately eliminated from consideration the one and only guy that wants the job that also fits everything that Guerrero wants in a new head football coach.  That coach is Texas Tech's Mike Leach.  We are not quite sure why Leach was removed from consideration so quickly, it could have been pressure from the Pac-10 office who hate Leach's honesty, or it could have been that Guerrero doesn't want a head football coach that will actually stand up and tell you what he is thinking.  As for the candidates that have been mentioned by the LA papers, DeWayne Walker, Norm Chow, and Rick Neuheisal, we cannot help but say, WHAT?  None of these guys remotely fit the parameters that Dan Guerrero outlined in the press conference after the firing of Karl Dorrell, and as for what the Champions across town at Heritage Hall think of the above 3 men.....Wait, the USC people are laughing hysterically as they imagine facing off with any of these guys in the coming years.  UCLA should be hiring a proven head coach that has won on the Division I-A level, and if they hire one of these other guys and it doesn't work out, Dan Guerrero is going to find that no matter how many championships you pile up in other sports, no one gets a 3rd chance to hire a football coach.  We will be watching with great interest the rest of this UCLA coaching search, because up to this point it has been a great disappointment.
Meanwhile, the folks over DumpDorrell.com have laid out DG's missteps in these early weeks:
Not having the search firm ready to go was the first misstep.  Not a huge misstep, and one that was easy fixed, but one that makes you scratch your head.  The second misstep was making it known that he was very interested in Chris Peterson when everyone knew, because Peterson was very vocal, that he didn't want the job.  There was never any direct public quote from DG so he could be given a pass.

The third misstep was interviewing John Harbaugh.  This is the move that absolutely makes no sense.  Why interview another no-name position coach when you just fired one??  No one knew Jim Harbaugh had a brother before DG interviewed John.  Now John is being considered to replace the mistake Dorrell??  We don't get that.  We want to believe in Guerrero, we do.  But if this goes sour, there are already some questionable moves to point to.

Nevertheless, let's review what we know.  The only confirmed interviews have been with Rick Neuheisel, Norm Chow, DeWayne Walker, and John Harbaugh.  That is not a great list for an AD who says at a big presser that the prerequisite for a new coach is successful head coaching experience.  Of that list obviously we only have 1 such candidate, Neuheisel.   If this is the list DG is taking to Chancellor Block this week, then DG will come under fire ... unless he picks Neuheisel (and even then DG will still look amateurish).   Dan Guerrero is painting himself into a corner here.  We don't get it.  If this is the hire that will shape his career, as DG himself apparently said, then something is missing.

We hope that something is shrouded in secrecy.   We know that there are other names. We know that DG is on planes, trains and automobiles ... we like that move.  That is a great way to keep the beat press in the dark.  So as we move into the week that DG sends his final list to Chancellor Block for review, we want to believe that DG is doing this right.  He really has only one shot ... it's that big.
I am still going to hold my breath and wait to see who we get as our next coach. After all it was just week, Michigan's coaching search was looking like a complete joke, until they hit (what appears to be a) home run this weekend. And FWIW Tom Dienhart from Sporting News is reporting that UCLA contacted Jim Harbaugh (not John Harbaugh) (?!):
I learned from someone close to Jim Harbaugh that the Stanford coach has talked with the search firm at UCLA. An interview could soon follow.
Again right now I am not sure who to believe. But it is hard not to miss the clamor for CHOKER or Walker on other boards. Yes, the morons over at message boards, you know the tools who have been supporting Dorrell all these years, the same cheese eating surrender monkeys who were celebrating a loss against Southern Cal, as a "true moral victory,"a are already going gaga over either CHOKER or Walker.

But for rest of us - alums and students - we are not going to sit down and just accept another horse-sh!t search process if it ends up with selection of CHOKER or the despicable, shameless hack like DeWayne Walker. If DG goes that route it will be an all out war against Morgan Center from hereon out. We are going to stay on them from the very first day, like we stayed on Karl Dorrell. We are going to lay down our markers for next years. And we are going to scrutinize their every move, every word the very moment they take over as the next "experiment" at UCLA.

Lastly, we will call out Dan Guerrero as big fat, lying scumbag, if he ends up shoveling the crap of Walker or CHOKER at the end of this coaching "search." We will do what we can to demand from Chancellor Block that he doesn't get a 3rd chance to atone for yet another mistake with our football program.

GO BRUINS.

UPDATE: Dienhart's source was apparently talking about John not Jim. So the search in the public sphere remains a total joke, sham, kabuki theater, whatever you want to call it. GO BRUINS. -N

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Dan Guerrero
This just in:  R-Rod (Rich Rodriguez), West Virginia's coach just abandoned his alma mater to take the Michigan job.  This breaks all previous notions we might have had about college coaching.  And, Michigan had the guts to do it before the Bowl games!  Michigan also did not ask W. Virginia's AD for permission to interview R-Rod. And this comes on the heels of Arkansas stealing Bobby P from the Falcons. This is huge for Michigan and what had originally appeared to be a laughable coaching search by Michigan is the best hire of the year.  Compared to UCLA's search, Michigan looked to be very professional and efficient.  They sought only the best, ie. Lyin'Les Miles, Greg Schiano and now R-Rod.  UCLA is settling for the worst.  John Harbaugh (who he?), Chow, Walker, Neuheisel.

I'll concede it's is late in the ballgame for a hire, but right now we are settling for crumbs.  Danny G needs to step back and rethink about his target coaches.  Clearly, anyone is fair game.  You don't need to wait until after the bowl games to ask, or to get permission from the coache's AD to interview anymore.  Why not talk to the Ol' ball coach, Spurrier.  He's very unhappy at South Carolina and needs a platform to get back into the Nat'l Championship hunt.  Chris Peterson has a few days before his bowl game in Hawaii with E. Carolina, Mike Leach wants outta Texas Tech, and we have a few days to talk to Bronco Mendenhall before the kick off of the LV Bowl.  Danny G needs to step up big time and start acting like Michigan's AD.

 

by bruin75 on Dec 16, 2007 12:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Desparation Time
Nestor, I sense your desperation -- an anxiety I and many of us share with you. If a pedestrian selection is made, then there is a futility to all of this. Either Guerrero is a master of the clandestine job search or being mastered and straight-jacketed by the bureaucrats in power. We all, of course, pray for the former and dread of the latter.

Clearly, Michigan is known for football and have demonstrated that they are -- essentially -- pirates, brigands, and cut-throats when it comes to looking out after their gridiron interests.

..Oh that our alma mater could have just a small inkling of that blood lust and derring-do!

At the risk of sounding like a petulant child, should a mediocre and uninspired choice eventuate,  I am prepared to erupt in a fit of torrid criticism of Guerrero (just as you plan to) and then dismiss UCLA football always and forever as the travesty and mediocre joke that those buffoons have made it. I wonder how many others feel the same way and would be prepared to pay to watch the product this would produce?

As Marlon Brando once said, "I coulda been a contender!"

 

by whp68 on Dec 16, 2007 1:10 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

That pirate talk
makes me think of a certain Red Raider coach who would look great in Blue and Gold.

by Fox 71 on Dec 16, 2007 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Culture of Losing
All this talk about Chow, Walker, Harbaugh (Who?), and Slick Rick makes me sick.  We should follow Michigan's blue print for hiring.  They went after the best until they got the best in R-Rod.  The culture of losing which started with Scary Terry Donahue making us all believe that 6-7 wins a year were acceptable has gone on for decades too long.  Until we make that big-time hire ie. Chris Peterson, Mike Leach, or the Ol' Ball Coach, Spurrier--UCLA will become the Duke University of the Pac-10.  

by bruin75 on Dec 16, 2007 1:45 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jim Harbaugh?
Interesting. I think that'd be a good hire, but that's based on no research or looking into it. Just my initial thought. What does everyone else think on Harbaugh. The one from Stanford who's been a coach.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Dec 16, 2007 2:20 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Has that been changed?
When I click on Dienhart's link, I don't see that blockquote about Jim Harbaugh, only the BS about John.

by kidro2001 on Dec 16, 2007 2:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Harbaugh
Stanford only lost to Notre Dame by 7, so I guess that makes him a qualified coach- at least in comparison to John.  He has one year of D-1 experience, and went 4-8 (vs. 1-11 in Harris' last year at Stanford).  Not exactly a home run hire.  He did have a great record at Div 1-AA USD, which is more head experience than some of the people (Walker and Choker) on the short list. It is really sad that the search process seems so screwed up that we could actually hope that Jim is on the list instead of John.  Ouch.

by islandbruin on Dec 16, 2007 3:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF is going on with UCLA football?
I just don't understand why the UCLA administration is not showing a stronger commitment to a revenue-producing sport. This decision does not just affect the football program, but many other sport programs at UCLA that rely on the revenue generated by football to continue on their excellence.

This better be one heck of a smokescreen, but right now I am extremely disappointed by the search. What kind of search firm did they hire? Dan, do whatever it takes to bring in a top-notch quality football coach! Despite great hires in Ben Howland and John Savage, if he screws the pooch on this hire then he's on the clock.

by UCLA4Life on Dec 16, 2007 3:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not even rumors
about Leach or Mendenhall or Mooch or Mora Jr.?  This is turning into a joke.

by Fox 71 on Dec 16, 2007 3:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Freaking A
They got Rich Rodriguez??? Are you kidding me???

by bruinbunz on Dec 16, 2007 3:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

well
FWIW the hiring of a search firm in the first place reeks of bureaucracy in the regents and upper management, not necessarily a choice DG has. If you weren't hamstrung by them, they wouldn't even be necessary

by blinkshot on Dec 16, 2007 4:06 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Search firm?
My God, all the joy felt after Dorrell's long overdue firing has evaporated.  This has got to be a joke.  

Did they actually pay somebody to come up with Walker, Chow, Neuheisel, and Harbaugh (not the real one)?  All they had to do was read the posts on BN and they could have gotten a MUCH better list that this.  Who did they hire as a search firm?  It's either a bunch of trOJans, or they outsourced the job to India maybe?  How much did they pay the "search firm"?  If this is really the list, there should be an investigation and everyone involved should be fired.

While they twiddled their thumbs, Paul Johnson was hired by Georgia Tech.  Other schools made moves to get good coaches.  And what did we do?  Come up with this "list"?  

Here's a list off the top of my head that would be better than Chow, Walker, Neuheisel, Harbaugh (not the real one):

Mike Leach
Chris Petersen
Bronco Mendenhall
June Jones
Steve Mariucci
Brian Kelly
Ed Kezirian
my dog

I think anyone would agree that my list is better than the "search firm's" list, so please send me the money you were going to pay them.  

by Tommy Bruin on Dec 16, 2007 5:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What I wouldn't give for DG...
... to show up in Boise with a 6-year, $10.5M offer to Petersen, with room to negotiate up to 7-years/ $13.0M, if needed.

M

"Because I'm tired of it. Year after year after year after year having to choose between the lesser of 'Who cares?'"

by Meriones on Dec 16, 2007 6:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Will Chris Petersen take it?
It doesn't sound like he's interested if these reports are true. It sounds like he's taking an Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer stance on UCLA since the big city scares and frightens him.

by UCLA4Life on Dec 16, 2007 6:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else think this HELPS us?
As far as public universities go, Michigan may be one of the closest analogs to US.

If UM's ballsy move doesn't kick DG and the rest of the admins in the butt and get them to take this SERIOUSLY, what will?

M

"Because I'm tired of it. Year after year after year after year having to choose between the lesser of 'Who cares?'"

by Meriones on Dec 16, 2007 6:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nope
Not if the administration insists on interviewing 2 coordinators with no head coaching experience and 1 former alum with an NCAA target on his back along with some guy whose brother is a head coach at Stanford (as if bloodlines is some indication of great success -- see Tony and Chris Gwynn... or better yet, Vlad Guerrero and any of his other brothers).

by UCLA4Life on Dec 16, 2007 6:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The Stoops
Its like we're using 'Zona's model.

Hey Bob was sucessful, lets give Mike a shot!

by kidro2001 on Dec 16, 2007 8:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mike
He was at least an important cog in Oklahoma's return to national prominence.  This Harbaugh thing is a much greater reach that Mike Stoops.

by Free the 16 on Dec 16, 2007 9:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are big differences
between UCLA and Michigan concerning football. Michigan is a big time program that will do what is necessary to pull in a great coach. They will pay big bucks for a proven and experienced leader. Many great coaches are usually interested in the football HC position there. UCLA has been mired in perpetual mediocrity that suits the administration and powers that be. I'm as frustrated with what looks like another ridiculous hiring process. I will not be surprised if we get Chow, Neuheisal or some other lower tier candidate. This is what UCLA football is all about. This mindset has been entrenched for years. Guerrero will definitley deserve some of the blame if we end up with one of these coaches, but I also believe the administration is probably making this search incredibly difficult for him. Guerrero has done a pretty good job so far in his current position and wants to bring UCLA football to the next level where basketball is. We hear bits of information about who the candidates are and what is happening. Much of it does make me scratch my head. I still want to believe DG is doing everything he can to get the right coach in here. I just don't know what is happening behind the scenes and what the admin is doing. I'm trying to give DG the benefit of the doubt at this point. It's truly a cultural issue. It's astounding more coaches haven't expressed an interest, at least that we know of. Things will never change until UCLA decides to be fully committed to the success of the football program. I sure wouldn't want Guerrero's job right now. I'm concerned the DG bashing will start heating up, and it certainly will if we get a lousy coach. I will be just as angry and disgusted as everyone else. If this happens, I hope we can find out more about what happened with the process and the constraints imposed by the admin before going after DG. Nestor's reference to targeting Morgan Center and admin should probably be the focus. I'm trying to remain hopeful, but have experienced too much BS concerning the overall attitude towards the football program. I keep hoping DG can somehow land a stong willed, experienced coach who will take full control and be willing to stand up to the admin. Things will never change until the right people come in and agressively try to force changes with respect to the program.  I just keep wondering if this will ever be possible.

by Bruins095 on Dec 16, 2007 6:54 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Similarities to Michigan's coaching search
East Coast Bruin made a good point in the comments of Ajax's post. After missing out on Miles, Schiano,  and whoever else they were courting, many Michigan fans were resigned to the same position we're in now. Low and behold, Michigan pulled it out with a hire no one saw coming. I'm confident (blind confidence, perhaps) there are many other viable candidates that have been interviewed that we would consider "first-tier" candidates.

Here's to hoping that Leach, Mendenhall, Kelly and a few other first tier candidates have been contacted that we haven't heard about.

by sevascisum on Dec 16, 2007 9:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think this is crazy
I think we are driving ourselves nuts when it was made pretty clear in the beginning of this process that we probably would not have a new coach named before the LV Bowl or maybe after.

That time line is still valid.

I once interviewed with the President of a Company by phone. At the time it was the best way to do it (also got the job). I think DG has been working the phones also and just because we don't publically hear those names doesn't mean there aren't other candidates for the job that might want to remain low key until it is time to come forward. Not everyone is as shameless as DW when it comes to blowing their own horn. Others like to let their "body of work" speak for them.

I have written it several times, I will trust DG until given a reason not to. All this other stuff flying around really isn't worth reacting to.

Put your seat backs in the full upright position, fasten your seat belts and let this bumpy ride play out.

by artybruin on Dec 16, 2007 10:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

One problem, your geezerness
It looks like the pilot of this plane is Clarence Oveur.

"Joey ..."

by Fox 71 on Dec 17, 2007 4:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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