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LAT: Trojan FB Players Taking Academic 'Shortcuts'

Yet another scandal emerges concerning Pom Pom's shady football program. An LA Times article today blows the door open re. the concept of "Trojan student athletes." Apparently, Pom Pom's football players, along with some Trojan song girl bimbos, have been working on their degrees by taking academic shortcuts:

The stampede of student athletes up Figueroa Street from USC to Los Angeles Trade Tech College nearly two miles away drew curious attention during summer school registration at the downtown community college last June.

Among those signing up were three 300-pound Trojans linemen, including one with academic troubles at the university. There was also the beefy linebacker son of television's "Incredible Hulk" and a succession of strapping athletes, among them millionaire ex-USC receiver Keary Colbert of the Carolina Panthers.

They all wanted the same class -- a shortcut around the tough advanced foreign language courses required at USC.

Joining them was a USC song girl famous on the Internet in a photo of her appearing to cheer for the wrong side in the 2006 Rose Bowl -- along with members of the USC women's basketball, volleyball and water polo teams. And others from men's basketball, baseball and track.

Despite the time-honored tradition of athletes seeking easy classes, this one was puzzling. It wasn't basket weaving, the history of rock and roll or even ballroom dancing -- the choice of USC Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Matt Leinart a few months earlier.

Surprisingly to some, it was a hard-core academic class: Intermediate Spanish 3. And guess why these Trojan scholars are taking this "hard-core" academic class? Because it is being taught by some 73 year old grandmother - Senora Rose Mary Ross - whose idea of being "hard" on her "students' is to give out a "B" instead of an "A" when in all likelihood they'd be getting "Ds" if they took the classes in the university they are actually attending: "Those USC kids told me, 'If I took this class at USC, I'd get a D.' All of them said that," Ross said. But she is not apologetic.

"I've never given an easy grade in my life," she told The Times in a recent interview. "You come to my class and work, and I see you want to learn, I'll give you an A. I see some lazy ass, coming late all the time, acting like he doesn't care, I won't give him an A. I'll give him a B. And here is another example of what a "hard core" class this really was: One of her biggest, Matt Spanos (6-5, 305), said classes were "extremely relaxed. Every day Senora Ross had a fun little story about her life and places she'd been to. She made it easy to learn."

The offensive lineman, who sat out the 2006 season because of inadequate grades, earned an A from Ross. But at the university his fortunes did not improve. At year's end Spanos again was declared academically ineligible and barred from the 2007 Rose Bowl game against Michigan. And like the others, he must retake Spanish 3.

"What else can go wrong?" he shrugged after his class credit was revoked. "Let's add another thing to the list." ROFL. That is just too easy. So even with Senora Ross's hardcore Spanish course Trojan football players were having tough time staying eligible. To give Southern Cal's academic officials credit, the story went on to report that the University eventually investigated and disallowed the class.

But here is the troubling (but not surprising) part. Pom Pom saw nothing wrong with his football scholars taking academic shortcuts.  Neither did the Pac-10: Pacific 10 Conference spokesman Jim Muldoon said his office "is aware" of USC's trouble with the class but there are no plans to investigate further. Yeah, it's not like it's the first time Trojan football program team has been caught in some embarrassing scandal. There is no pattern here. Yeah, that's right. Move along Pac-10 officials. Why would the Pac-10 kill their money making machine? Just another reason I don't see anything coming out of the Reggie Bush scandal.

Business as usual at ole U$C. Cheat on Fight on Trojans.



She learned that in Senora Ross's class. She is no TrOJan Dummy.

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This is what I was talking about...
and the funny thing about the story is that Spanos was so incensed by the university not accepting the class that he went to the LA times to publicly complain that he wasn't getting credit for the class.  We should give credit to the school portion of SC for not accepting the BS grade (though it seems to be a long standing problem that only now has been caught).  The athletic dept. still should be scolded for encouraging this type of behavior.

by isodore on Feb 2, 2007 9:02 AM PST   0 recs

Posted this before
But it seems especially appropiate here...

http://home.comcast.net/~spytime/

Just a few gems from this one from a Trojan who played in the '70's...

"1972 ... That was the year USC Changed ALL my grades ... Why?....
Because I was the BEST Wide Receiver on planet Earth !!! ... lol ... They later got into  some REAL trouble with the NCAA over that one ....."

"I told them: You changed my grades before ... So change them again DAMMIT ... SOOOooo I can go to another college.  If my grades were that bad ... what was I doing traveling to & playing in All them games ???"

"I'm telling you. .... Being a "so-called" student-athlete can be VERY LUCRATIVE. & I can confirm that it was Coach Marv Goux who was the USC $Money$ Man when I was at USC ... He handled the Ticket Scalping stuff ... You SEE each football player got four complimentary Tickets per game ... with the option to buy four more on the 50 yard line ...(Best SEATS in the Coliseum) We talking eight tickets per game ...BIG $Money$ ... Always one player at a time called to his office ... Always in $CASH$ (non traceable ... or ... Taxable)... in a FAT Stuffed Envelope ..."  

I especially like the Goux thing.  They love to trott out Sam Gilbert inuendo all the time, yet Mr. Trojan himself, Marv Goux was busted by the NCAA-FACT!

Check this site out if you haven't already.

by Free the 16 on Feb 2, 2007 11:43 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

Just shocking
So shocking.

by Nestor on Feb 2, 2007 9:33 AM PST   0 recs

So Many Gems In This Article
Having the football players ... " Ross paused. "I put in extra effort so that no one could call them big dummies."

by laertes on Feb 2, 2007 10:01 AM PST   0 recs

In other news
Water is wet.  Sun to rise in East, set in West.

News at eleven.

by Sweetbreads Bailey on Feb 2, 2007 10:55 AM PST   0 recs

Classic Petey Quote
"I don't know what's the big deal. Guys do stuff like that all the time," Carroll said.

by vanaaron on Feb 2, 2007 1:00 PM PST   0 recs

Its not a big deal
I'm sure the community college classes were just as if not harder than USC classes. Maybe they can graduate with honors now.

by BruinFan1 on Feb 2, 2007 1:49 PM PST   0 recs

Academic shortcuts?
Wait, you mean going to SUC isn't an academic shortcut? It seems like they haven't done anything about it.

by Tydides on Feb 2, 2007 2:47 PM PST   0 recs

Haven't done anything about what?
Don't critize Cheatie Petie for not condemning the guys who went to the Spanish Ballroom Dance class.  He's still busy ignoring the majority of the team who don't attend any classes at all.

by Fox 71 on Feb 2, 2007 7:18 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

Oops
I meant doing something as in getting rid of the academic shortcut itself: southern cal.

by Tydides on Feb 2, 2007 7:42 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

I wonder -
Do you suppose the kids at justsc are as tired of being academically irrelevant as we are of being footballularly irrelevant?  (The majority of them probably don't care, because they will simply join dad's company after they graduate.)

by Fox 71 on Feb 2, 2007 8:00 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

USC
So what does USC sell you for $30,000 a year. Is it an education? HAH!

Do they care about their school's academic reputation. Probably not. There are just too many Trojans out there. . . it's like a freakin' mafia family.

I don't feel sorry for the rich kids, really. The ones I feel sorry for are the poor kids, who for one reason or another really bought what USC was selling them--that a degree from USC is your ticket into the club. So they max out their loans and $100,000 later they have their degree. Now what?

--By the way, I saw Dr. Allen last week. I told him that every time I mention his name his old students have nothing but good things to say. He said something like, "To think that all the time I spent instilling fear and terror into my students was all for waste."

I asked him when was the next time he was teaching history of economic though. He said, "never." I asked him what he was going to do with all of his time off."

"Chase co-eds." he said.

I hope he changes his mind and decides to teach again.

by rick.2012 on Feb 3, 2007 12:11 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

One class from Allen
is worth everything that Figueroa Tech has to offer.  What a great teacher.  Truly, it would be a kind gesture for the BN to figure a way to let the justsc song girls take a class from him.  Maybe they could figure out little things like who to cheer for.

Here's another great one - is this guy still teaching English?  He was destined to be an English Lit teacher from birth:  George Bernard Tennyson.

by Fox 71 on Feb 3, 2007 2:29 PM PST to parent up   0 recs

USC ATHELETES CHEATING?!
PREPOSTEROUS AND INCONCEIVABLE!

by tsunugundam on Feb 2, 2007 9:41 PM PST   0 recs

The best gem in the article?
This little ditty from the so-called "teacher":

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"Ross, meanwhile, remains feisty and unbowed, stoutly defending teaching methods she has used for more than 40 years.

"'The most important thing in learning is that everyone likes the teacher,' she said."
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My wife was a HS English teacher in LA Unified for 6 years, and has been in Arcadia Unified for another 6.  My father-in-law has been a HS History teacher in LA Unified for nearly 30 years.

The most important thing in learning is not that everyone likes the teacher.

The most important thing is learning is that the students learn.

Students don't have to LIKE the teacher in order to learn, unless we're talking about very young children who can't separate their feelings from someone and their ability to pay attention to them.  

Students need to respect that the teacher knows what they're trying to teach, respect others in the class and maintain order so that everyone can learn, and respect that they will be held accountable if they fail to submit assignments or prepare for tests.

Liking a teacher is not irrelevant, but it is not the most important concern here.  A teacher can be the most unlikable old bat on this earth, but if they're respected, a grade from that teacher will mean something.

If a teacher is so focused on being liked that they lose perspective, responsibility, and respect, then they have decreased ability to maintain discipline and accountability for missed work, unruly behavior, poor study practices, etc.

Does anyone here think the $C "student-athletes" respected Ms. Ross for anything beyond getting an easy "A" and puffing up their GPAs?

The most important thing in learning is being liked?  NO.

The most important thing in learning is that you actually LEARN.

Maybe in this case, the $C students will learn they can't just get by on popularity and working the system.  It works a lot, but that doesn't mean it should.

Merit counts, not just convenience.

Learning counts, not just grades, inflated or otherwise.

Accountability counts, not just bank accounts.

Pay attention, Trojans.  There will be a test on this, and judging from this article, it will be when you least expect it.

MIM

by Meriones on Feb 3, 2007 8:52 AM PST   0 recs

In junior high...
I had a teacher who was so afraid of her students and getting her car vandalized, that she only gave word searches and other games rather than teach.  Hurray LAUSD.  Didn't learn a damn thing, though I did raise a big stink about it and almost got an F.

by isodore on Feb 3, 2007 10:29 AM PST to parent up   0 recs

did anyone notice
"A Times review of the 25-student Spanish 3 class list shows that [Senora] Ross, a USC graduate from the 1950s, issued a B to five summer school students. All others got an A."

No kidding. . . all in a day's work for a USC aluma, right?

by rick.2012 on Feb 3, 2007 11:59 AM PST   0 recs

Nice curve
I wish my law school would take note

by bruinhoo on Feb 4, 2007 12:13 AM PST   0 recs

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