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Spring Football Is Here ...

Time to start thinking about our football program again. Spring practice kicks off tomorrow afternoon. If you are interested in attending here are details of practice schedule posted on the official site:

UCLA will open its 2007 football Spring Practice on Thursday afternoon, April 5. All practice sessions are open to the public and weekday sessions are scheduled for 4:00 - 6:00 p.m.

UCLA will host a Fan Appreciation Day, with players and coaches signing autographs and posing for photographs on Saturday, April 7. Practice will conclude on Friday evening, April 27, with a final scrimmage.

Following is the schedule (tentative and subject to change):

Week One - April 5 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 6 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 7 (11:00 am-1:00 pm).

Week Two - April 9 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 10 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 12 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 14 (10:00 am-Noon).

Week Three - April 16 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 17 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 19 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 21 (1:00-3:00 pm).

Week Four - April 24 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 26 (4:00 - 6:00 pm), April 27 (7:00 pm scrimmage).
If you attend one of these practices and have specific impressions/notes to share that are not being reported in the local players, by all means please post them here on BN.

The story of this camp is going to be the faceoff between Cowan and Olson. I have certain thoughts on that duel which I will post later this week or early next week.

Meanwhile, the other story line (at least here on BN which will probably filter into the traditional media sooner or later) is the incredible pressure building on Karl Dorrell to win the Pac-10 in his fifth season at Westwood.

We weren’t paying much attention during the Madness. However, bluestreet flagged something really startling in a writeup Sportsline.com’s resident a**hole Dennis Dodd. In that write up Dodd laid out his pre-season top-25 in which he penciled in the Bruins at number 9. Now there are other folks who are picking UCLA to be a top-10 team next season. But what was really interesting from Dodd’s writeup is that it was Marc Dellins, the Sports Information Director from Morgan, who is expecting UCLA to win not just the Pac-10 this season, but beat Southern Cal by at least 20 points (emphasis mine throughout):
The Bruins are in!

You knew that, and you didn't know that. Final Four? Sure. The Spring Top 25? Let's just say I am making Marc Dellins' day. Dellins is the UCLA Minister of Propaganda -- they call him the sports info director in Westwood -- who was quick to point out that his Bruins have 20 returning starters from a team that beat Southern California.

This is an issue because the Bruins got, uh, well, somehow left out of my first 2007 Top 25 in January. Being the good MOP that he is, Mr. Dellins quickly shipped me the galleys of the spring guide. He apologized in advance for the typos (the bound version is coming). I didn't notice any except the bold prediction on Page 3 about beating USC. Again. By 20. To win the Pac-10. Now that's a good MOP.
Now I think this is pretty significant. This is a pretty clear cut public signal from the Morgan Center brass that they expect Dorrell to win the Pac-10 this upcoming season. And that note basically ratchets up public pressure on KD. The boys over at DumpDorrell.com (who are at the moment experiencing some technical difficulties) read it the same way:
This is BIG. Morgan Center is stating in bold clear language, printed in a glossy media guide they will send out to journalists across the country, that Dorrell will take our football team to the Coliseum and beat USC by 20 points!! AND … and … in doing so Dorrell will have won the Pac-10 championship that he hasn’t come close to sniffing as head coach. Well hello EXPECTATIONS!! Might as well call out Carroll and his thugs by name while you’re feeling confident.
Well since that article from Dodd came out, UCLA released it’s own spring outlook. And they are not backing away from those rosy expectations:
A year ago, the UCLA football team won its final three regular-season games, finishing in fourth place in the Pacific-10 standings and earning its fourth straight bowl bid under head coach Karl Dorrell.

It also set the table for what should be an exciting and successful 2007 season.

Coach Dorrell and his staff will welcome back a wealth of experience as the nucleus of this year's team. The starting contingent includes 10 players on each side of the ball who started the majority of games at their positions. In addition, there are several other players on both offense and defense with extensive starting experience. A total of 24 scholarship seniors populate the 2007 roster.
And KD on his part is spouting out his usual barrage of clichés:
"As a program, we are ready to move forward," said head coach Karl Dorrell. "I feel we are at the point where we have the talent and the depth in the program to do something special.

"Last season, we made tremendous strides defensively and we are going to build on that unit's success. The competition for playing time at several positions promises to be intense and the returning starters are going to have to continue to perform to hold off the younger players in the program.

"Offensively, we have made some changes that I feel will help us maximize our offensive potential. We are looking forward to taking a long look at both the veterans and the newcomers during Spring Practice and building a very productive unit.

"We have quality experience at virtually every position on both sides of the ball, but our younger players will also be given the chance to earn playing time. I expect this will be the most competitive Spring Practice during my tenure and it should raise the level of everyone's game."
Hmm doing "something special." Again will reporters call him out on that comment considering last year before the season he declared he had his deepest team ever. In any event when he says "doing something special" there is no other way to interpret that other than winning (at least) a conference championship. Dorrell may be digging his own grave here in terms of expectations and we will flag every single comment during this off-season, which we will use as markers for our minimum expectations of at least a Pac-10 championship next season.

Well now that hoops season is over as soon as practice starts we will keep an eye on all the stories coming out in next two weeks. I don’t think it is going to be very difficult for us to lay out over next few months, why Dorrell should either win the Pac-10 or leave (or be fired) Westwood at the end of this upcoming season.

We are not going to be patient and from reading the tea leaves at Morgan Center, it looks like UCLA officials themselves may not be in the mood to be all that patient with an underachieving coach either. Good news all around.

GO BRUINS.

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no excuses
Good to see the official position on this team is identical to the one shared by us here on BN. UCLA beat a superior and motivated SUC team last year with tough, smash mouth football. This year our team is even better. No more BS.

by njbruin on Apr 4, 2007 6:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow!
I guess speaking in cliches, like love, means never having to say you're sorry.  Is there anyone who can translate what Coach Dorrell said into English?  It seems to me that his own expectation is to show up.  And no one seems to be capable of getting him to actually say anything.

Frankly, I am embarrassed that this sort of non-speak is emanating from the head of the football program.  His ability to speak is on a par with his ability to coach.

by Fox 71 on Apr 4, 2007 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

KD would be perfect
as a spokesperson for the (current) White House. That would be his real calling.

by bluestreet on Apr 4, 2007 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

No substance whatsoever
"Non-speak" is right.

Leaving his lack of coaching abilities aside for a second, why can't KD (who appears to be intelligent) just come out and speak words with some "meat on the bone," so to speak?  Has the man ever said anything, as coach, of any substance?  Anything?

And I am STILL waiting for him to declare that loss to SuC two years ago a complete, humiliating embarrassment, which it was.  I want to hear him say that we were completely outplayed and totally outcoached and it will never happen again as long as he is coach.  If I had to buy a ticket and sit through that horror of a game (all the while suffering the obscene, verbal abuse from the SuC fans), the least he can do is to take some responsibility for that mess.  As you can tell, I am still emotionally scarred from that debacle.

Please KD.  Say something real.  If you can't coach, at least speak to us like a non-politician.

by Barnes2JJ on Apr 4, 2007 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

unfortunately
it's those who can't coach who feel the need to speak like a politician.  

by bornagainbruin on Apr 4, 2007 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

all cliches
I really don't have a problem with the cliches. About 95% of sports communication is cliches - every single winner says the exact same thing (I want to thank God, etc.), every coach says the same thing (tip your hat to the other team, etc.).

No, the problem I have is the lack of emotion. Bash Floyd all you want after the paperthrowing incident, but he was furious about his team getting screwed by the refs. I wouldn't mind seeing Dorrell get similarly furious during a game! I want to see him pissed and happy and everything else. Basically, like he got a stake in the action.

There's something to be said for calm and collected, but it's worth noting that his finest hour has been the one game where he clearly was involved (the huddle, etc.).

by njbruin on Apr 4, 2007 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough
And yes, "the huddle" against SuC was an outstanding moment.  I cannot ever recall seeing something like that on a football field previously.

I guess if KD could coach, I would not care about the cliches.  However, I can't take a guy who can't coach and just blathers on with the robot-speak.  Also, if I hear him say, "we are improving" one more time, I might just lose it.

by Barnes2JJ on Apr 4, 2007 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

KD comments
Fox 71, that was very good and insightful. KD is like one of our Presidential candidates who is of the fem persuasion.... all speech is rehearsed, full of cliches, and a bit stilted... hard to know what KD, in this case, is really thinking, other than continue his fine tradition of remembering birthdays among the staff at Morgan Center...
Bill
BillSouthBay

by Mensgym on Apr 4, 2007 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

with one exception...
That candidate is cut throat and knows how to go for the jugular.

by isodore on Apr 4, 2007 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The time is now
If he cant win the Pac 10 with all of those returning starters, a star QB, and all of his own recruits, then its never going to happen. The stars are aligned for KD. No more excuses.

by Tydides on Apr 4, 2007 8:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't get
why our spring football season starts so late.  Is it because of the relatively late spring break that UCLA has?

I've never understood this.  By the time spring practice wraps up, you're essentially giving yourself two months, tops, to make personnel decisions prior to fall practice.

I'll be more interested (honestly) in the battle for receiver spots in spring practice than the quarterback position.  Tailback is also a big question mark, I think.  Our running game was, by most accounts, pretty awful last year.

IMO, if Dorrell had any offensive ingenuity and Cowan and Olson both played near each other, I'd consider utilizing a two-QB package.  I'd consider using Olson on deep packages and bring Cowan in for dump-offs and QB options.  Obviously, you'd have to mix up the packages occasionally (have Pat through deep on occasion), but the fact is, Cowan has no deep ball.  

If we hope to effectively compete in the Pac-10 next year, we'll have to stretch the field with a vertical passing game, and, let's face it, Cowan doesn't have the natural ability to do that.  The only way Cowan can effectively stretch defenses is with his running ability and that largely succeeded in the USC game because no one was expecting it - it's not like Cowan is blazing fast.  'SC just had no QB spy package that was working effectively.

However, I have no faith whatsoever that Dorrell could effectively manage a two-QB situation.  So, natch.

by CAJason80 on Apr 4, 2007 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

It's Because of the Quarter System
Spring practice is starting new because it runs nearly four weeks and can't straddle quarters because of final exams and quarter break.  Consequently the only choices are to start it in mid-February, like last year when the field was being renovated, or starting it now, when the spring quarter begins.

by UCLAW on Apr 4, 2007 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

final product?
I don't think the prediction referenced by Dodd will make it to the final product. I note that Dodd specifically mentions that he saw the galleys, and plenty of editorial discretion can be exercised before the final product is released. While I am optimistic that pressure at last is being raised on Dorrell to win, I am not sure we can take too much from this particular instance. However, if pressure is being applied, we can finally begin to hope that if expectations aren't met, Dorrell will be canned and we may finally try to land a good head coach with a proven record of achievement.

Ultimately, I just don't have faith in our coaching to get the job done. We have sufficent returning talent to contest for the Pac-10 title; we have sufficent talent returning to make a serious run at a BCS bowl; we have sufficent talent returning to possibly be undefeated going into the USC game. We do not have great talent, but we have good talent, especially on defense; we do not have talent on both sides of the ball as good as USC. I think we have solid reasons to believe that we can win the Pac-10 title.

But with Dorrell as coach, we can be fairly sure that somewhere along the line, UCLA will stumble against a demonstrably inferior opponent, and I am not all optimistic when we play USC at the Coliseum. I don't think Dorrell is a terrible coach; instead, he is simply a mediocre coach who cannot maximize lesser talent or capitalize on having outstanding talent. I hope that UCLA wins the Pac-10, beats USC and plays for a national title, but realistically, I see us at best as a Holiday Bowl participant at perhaps 9-3 or 10-2.

by ucladj89 on Apr 4, 2007 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

SWAGGER IS GREAT, BUT ...

"But what was really interesting from Dodd's writeup is that it was Marc Dellins, the Sports Information Director from Morgan, who is expecting UCLA to win not just the Pac-10 this season, but beat Southern Cal by at least 20 points ..."  

I'd be happy if Dellins said that we are confident that we will beat SC again, but to start with an opening bid of 20?

by uclagradscdad on Apr 4, 2007 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

TrOJan lover
I know its hard for you to fathom that your beloved TrOJans would lose to UCLA by three touchdowns, but I for one am happy with this expectation.

Of course, we don't have the benefit of having players who receive free rent, free houses, limos while being recruited, and taking cake-walk Spanish classes, to name a few. Is that what you're referring to, SCDAD? UCLA is at a disadvantage because they PLAY BY THE RULES? Shocking, I know.

And please, please, please stop using the word WE when referring to the Bruins. You are not one of US. Stay on the Dark side, because we all know that's where your heart lies.

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 4, 2007 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

"WE" - I DON'T INCLUDE YOU, BUT ...
if you graduated in '95, I have been a Bruin about 30 years more than you.

by uclagradscdad on Apr 4, 2007 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?
It's too bad that after 30 years your Bruin allegiance has eroded, so much so that you refer to trOJans as WE and feel the need to argue/change topic any post or thread which depicts $C in a negative light! And I wont even bring up the fact that you allowed your own offspring to go to that piece of crap school!

Thirty years from now I guarantee my Bruin allegiance and my hatred to $C will be as strong as it is now. You are lost and conflicted. Too bad. You have your own free will and you chose the Dark side. You are not one of US, SCDAD!

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 4, 2007 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, whatever $C Dad
You want to see something REALLY FOOLISH:

SPENDING 160K FOR A TROJAN DEGREE!!!

Not what I'd call a real wise investment, $C Dad!

Even if your son or daughter got a full ride, still wouldn't chalk that up as a smart move.

Later.

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 4, 2007 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

On second thought
scdad, I don't really care how you sent your son to justsc.  That issue is so utterly not relevant as to be wasting your time in posting and my time in reading.  WHY you would send your son to justsc is a much more interesting subject.  

My opinion of justsc is such that I could never look myself in the mirror again if I sent my child (or even my worst enemy's child) to that place.  Yours is obviously different.  Our minds will never meet on this issue, ever.

So you know what?  I won't bother asking any more, and you don't have to bother explaining.  Your conscience allows you to live with your decision.  So good luck to you and to your son.  I hope there are no negative repercussions from this decision.  

by Fox 71 on Apr 4, 2007 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

scholarships
Private schools give way more money than public ones AFAIK.

by njbruin on Apr 4, 2007 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lay off him
I have a lot of relatives who went to U$C, years ago. We enjoy a healthy rivalry and believe me, they are FAR from stupid. The banter I enjoy here is mostly for sports and to make fun of rich spoiled kids who just want to party in the safe confines of other rich spoiled kids. I for one will not jump on his throat every time he posts something, unless it is a blatent disregard for the fact that this is A BRUIN BLOG!!! I strongly suggest that he change his moniker just so we don't spend time on this after every post.

by tasser10 on Apr 4, 2007 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the kind thoughts ...
It is a little tiring to respond to the constant haranging. I will take your name change to heart.  I'll have to mull over the possibilities.

by uclagradscdad on Apr 4, 2007 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here are a few suggestions
"redinthefall, blueinthewinter"

"onthefence"

"petecarroll4ever"

"trojansarenice"

"wuzabruin, nowatrojan"

"lostandconflicted"

"layoffOJ"

"cantweallgetalong?"

"from8clap 2 cheaton!"

Sorry Tasser, I couldn't resist ;-)

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 4, 2007 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

that is funny
and a far better way to tease than to jump on him at every comment. He never should have used "we" when referring to U$C, but let's say it was a slip of the tongue, this time. I'm sure he'll think twice before doing anything like that again! Right UCLAgrad?

by tasser10 on Apr 5, 2007 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does Cheat Carroll
get away with it?  I'll remind everyone of Dan Wetzel's Yahoo article from last September:

"LOS ANGELES - The would-be agents who provided the house, the money for the tricked-out car, the luxury hotel rooms and the tens of thousands in cash used to roll right into the Southern California locker room after the game, right past security, to meet and greet the triumphant Trojans.

The marketing agent who provided the cash allowance, the plane flights, the limo rides and the designer suits used to hang around Trojan practices, filed paperwork with the athletic department and walked the sidelines of the Los Angeles Coliseum like he was Pete Carroll himself.

It is no surprise that Reggie Bush and his family cashed in on his future earnings during his Heisman Trophy career at USC, as so many allege. Finding eager agents willing to pay for an edge on representing him was easy; they were all over the place at the loose ship known as Trojan Football.

At practice. At games. In the locker room. At the football program's Heritage Hall. Even with permission of the athletic department's compliance office."

Okay, so the NCAA looks the other way when a "high profile" program pays its players and breaks the rules because it's "good for college football" as a whole when schools like U$C and Notre Dame and Texas are winning.  We have to live with that.  But when a bunch of unpaid players go up against all that flash and cash and STILL win 13-9, it makes a victory that much sweeter.

A couple months ago a $UC-wad fan called a sports radio show and asked why UCLA still talks about that game, and why don't we just move on because it's over.  It was right after the pounding we gave them in basketball when we rang the bell at halftime, shouted "13 to 9", etc.  

Maybe it's to remind everyone that money doesn't ALWAYS buy victories.

by Class of 86 on Apr 4, 2007 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Good Luck Coach Dorrell!
You got the roster, you have our support as Bruins, go out there and bring home the Pac 10 title this year!
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Apr 4, 2007 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

At the risk of hijacking the thread more...
LAY OFF OF UCLAGRADSCDAD.

We all love to mess around and engage in hyperbole and ranting and raving on this blog.  That's sort of what it's for.

But saying that he's not really one of us, or questioning his loyalty, or hijacking any thread he shows up in to blast his moniker or where his kids ultimately went to school?

WHO FREAKING CARES?

He comes on this Board, he participates, he chimes in, he's respectful, even if he doesn't agree 100% with every nuance of every cheer and thread in here.  

He may not always be as rabid in hating our opponents, and he may not take every loss in as debilitating a fashion as we do, but who freaking cares.

Saying he doesn't belong?  Saying he's a traitor?  A little good-natured ribiing is one thing, but for about 2 weeks, I've seen repeated personal shots at him anytime he tries to make a point that may be somewhat impartial.

GIVE IT A FREAKING REST.

MIM

And we will have our vengeance, in this game and the next.

by Meriones on Apr 4, 2007 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I wouldnt be surprised
if your rant makes more people want to jump in on it.

Ill give him all the crap I want for the stupid things hes already done (referring to SUC as "we" and making excuses for racism), but I dont find it necessary to attack his family. I can certainly understand others irritation however when he attempts to deflect attention away from every SUC scandal that is posted. As far as being a traitor, one could certainly make the case that he has already revealed himself as one, so its not like the accusations are off base.

by Tydides on Apr 4, 2007 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

MIM
I think I agree with your frustration.

But to be honest sometimes this SCDad comes across as lecturers ala Joe Lieberman. And I am not a big fan of folks who always get in the mode of lecturing at the expense of our own side while letting off our rivals.

SCDad needs to grapple with the fact that BN is an unapologetic partisan Bruin blog. We are not going to have it any other way. If he is looking for a place where he can say nice things about his son's school and not get called out for it, he needs to find another community.

Sorry to sound so harsh. But we didn't build this place so we can hear good things about Southern Cal while putting down UCLA (notwithstanding our issues with Dorrell).

by Nestor on Apr 4, 2007 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tolerance "Can' we all just get along"
I'm always somewhat entertained by most blogs, but I find even the smallest desention with the local's on BN causes a gang-type mentality on something that should be fun. MIM, you have it right, thanks for pointing it out. If it can't be said in fun, grow up and don't say anything at all. Some of us were Bruin fans before most of you were born. Growing up in LA I have lots of friends and family who attended USC. Without them UCLA fans would have nothing to talk about. I guess we still have our other rivals, Long Beach State and Cal State Northridge.

by bcrack on Apr 4, 2007 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree
I appreciate the spirit of your comment, but, to the extent that it is premised upon your belief that the person in question is respectful, then I disagree.  I had to delete prior comments wherein he called another BN poster a nazi.  He also constantly interjects his own pro-USC banter, not to contribute meaningfully, but to stir the pot, and detract from the subject at hand (as he has done again successfully in this chain).

So, yes, I care about name calling.  And, I care about disrupting discussions about the Bruins.

Of course, I agree to the extent that I believe that the stuff about his family and other personal stuff has no place here (or anywhere).

Maybe I'm just crumpy after having been up all night with a newborn, but that's how I feel.

by Menelaus on Apr 5, 2007 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I second these comments
Calling a very consistent, dependable and valuable contributor to BN a Nazi was way out of line.  I haven't yet heard/seen an apology for that little zinger.

I don't care for the personal attacks, either, because it detracts from all the good stuff on this site, but that incident was memorable, in a bad way.

by Barnes2JJ on Apr 5, 2007 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Newborn!
Congrats to all!  And how is new baby Ben and his mom.  (I just naturally assumed that the baby's name is Ben.)

by Fox 71 on Apr 5, 2007 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks
It's a girl, and since Beniffer was already taken, we had to go with something else.  Fortunately, the little one has already been advised of her college choice, so her life is just that much simpler.  

by Menelaus on Apr 5, 2007 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad you missed Bennifer
and my very best to you and your growing family.  Bennifer (I think you may have inadvertently provided her BN name) has lots of aunts and uncles here in the BN who will expect some kid pics when you get time.

by Fox 71 on Apr 5, 2007 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I missed that
Whoever calls Fox a Nazi is a Communist! Ok, jokes aside, I didn't see that comment...obviously because those comments were deleted. I must have missed that thread. Totally out of line.

by tasser10 on Apr 5, 2007 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to worry
I'm at peace with myself.  I seem to get under the skin of certain people.  I hope they are at peace with themselves as well.

Now to the business at hand, which is one addition to the BN (Bennifer) and one deletion (Coach Dorrell).

by Fox 71 on Apr 5, 2007 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really...
why get on scdad?  What we should really be talking about is the continued BS rhetoric coming out of UCLA.  We could go back and find all this same meaningless double-speak crap before every season and then find the same "but next year will be different" at the end of every season.  

There is nothing different out of Morgan and no more heat on Dorrell.  How is "We expect to win the pac 10" from last year, complete with bracelets, any different from what is being said now?

I'm ready to hear something different after our 4th loss this year.

by greatgymnasticsschool on Apr 4, 2007 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it's different
We've never heard the kinds of statements out of our SID like this. Beat SUC by 20 to win the Pac 10? Those sound like, dare I say it, expectations? If KD fails to produce yet again this year, then there are definitive expectations to hold someone, whether it be KD, Morgan Center or both, accountable. If heaven forbid we do suffer our 4th loss, then I also expect to hear something "different" like "we've decided to go in a different direction".

by Tydides on Apr 4, 2007 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

last year...
it was "win the pac 10", I guess bracelets don't help you reach that goal so much, and "beat SC".  So yes, "by 20" is new this year but really that same crap.

by greatgymnasticsschool on Apr 5, 2007 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

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