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Dohn continues to make excuses for Karl Dorrell's underachieving reign in the UCLA football program. He posted the last two installments of his Q&A sessions this past weekend (Part III and IV). Once again couple of excuses stuck out like a sore thumb.

First, Dohn made excuses for how assistant coaches are not being paid enough:

During Dorrell's tenure at UCLA, he has seen an entire gaggle of assistants leave or be terminated. Is this unprecedented in college football to have this number of assistants leave a program? What are your thoughts on the reason(s) for these defections? Is Dorrell a very difficult person to work with? Is it the salaries? The school colors??????
I love the school colors part because I believe you either love the powder blue or hate it. Seriously, though, it is mostly financial. From what I understand, USC’s assistants still laugh at the salaries of some of the UCLA assistants. And if you’re a coach like D.J. McCarthy (and forget whether he is good or not because this is just an example), he was living 45 non-traffic minutes from campus, working 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. during the season making about $130,000. He is now at LSU, living five minutes off campus, with the chance to make twice as much and can live in twice the house for half the money. I think the carousel will continue, with good coaches leaving for jobs that are more family-friendly.
Well I am not sure who Dohn is hearing from but it is interesting that he went back to the excuse of assistant coaches are not making enough just a day before he himself asserted that "the staff is making more money than ever." And his using D.J. McCarthy as an example (even though he tried to attach a weak disclaimer) is beyond laughable. If you look at the circumstances its not unreasonable to conclude that McCarthy left UCLA for something other than financial reasons [Dohn himself wrote about McCarthy's dog and pony show at UCLA]. The dude seemed to have been pushed out. It certainly looked like he was scapegoated. He was a joke as WR coach, as it was one of the most messed up units in a messed up Dorrellian offense. So to assert that a coach like McCarthy left UCLA because he wasn't making it financially is just a sorry excuse and it is just pathetic that Dohn had to go that route.

Dohn then also went on to provide another contradictory response in Part IV:
How secure is Dorrell's job? I hope he succeeds this year, but do you think there is a minimum number of wins he needs to garner to sustain his job into 2008?
I think eight wins would make things very interesting, but it is contingent on injuries and the happenstances of a season. One thing I do know is the administration is pleased he has cleaned up the off-the-field image of the program, and there is a belief that the academics make it a challenge to win 10 games consistently.
Uhm. Notice something here? Just couple of days ago he was setting the bar at 8 wins saying, "If UCLA doesn't win at least eight games, there could be trouble." And now he is saying 8 wins will make things "interesting." Whatever. I think it is kind of clear Dohn is not thinking through these responses at this point. He seems to be going through motions chortling out boilerplate responses. Kind of disappointing. Oh well.

Lastly, there is a nice read on Bruin RG Noah Sutherland in his hometown newspaper in Virginia Beach. Noah certainly seems to have the right mindset heading into this upcoming season:
"We're hoping to win a Pac-10 championship," Sutherland said. "And with everybody back, even compete for a national championship. I don't see anybody we should lose to. If we take care of business with the talent we have, it should play out pretty well for us."
Noah must have been reading BN? No?

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Thank you, Noah
Finally someone with cojones.  

Memo to football team:  No more "We know we can't win every game."  No more "We're just honored to have been allowed to play them."

You guys are big, tough guys.  Stop acting like Barney or Mr. Rogers.  If you don't think you're going to win every game, then you won't win every game.  

I was going to write things like "play to win, rather than not to lose."  Then I remembered who the coach is.  Oh well.  Why bother.

by Fox 71 on Jul 9, 2007 6:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

For all of Toledo's faults, at least
he said, my aim is to win the national championship.  

Compare Toledo's statement to KD's:

We have done some good things.
We are turning the corner.
I didn't believe it (beating SC) until the clock hit zero.
I want to thank Charlie Weis for the opportunity to play [that is, lose] at Notre Dame.
I forgot we had Manual White on the bench.

These are the utterances of a loser.

KD is the guy all other Pac 10 coaches want to remain at UCLA forever.

by bluegold on Jul 9, 2007 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree with you
In this context, your reference to Mr. Rogers and being (likely too) nice, you are correct, sir.  However, because this is a thread on Dorrell, I want to make sure that Mr. Rogers is associated with mediocrity.  Mr. Rogers was awesome!!  Millions are better people (myself included) because of him.  I implore everyone to read this article on the Minister.  He was truly an American hero.

15 Reasons Mister Rogers Was the Best Neighbor Ever.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/5943?rss

Here is a sampling:

2. He Made Thieves Think Twice
According to a TV Guide piece on him, Fred Rogers drove a plain old Impala for years. One day, however, the car was stolen from the street near the TV station. When Rogers filed a police report, the story was picked up by every newspaper, radio and media outlet around town. Amazingly, within 48 hours the car was left in the exact spot where it was taken from, with an apology on the dashboard. It read, "If we'd known it was yours, we never would have taken it."

3. He Watched His Figure to the Pound!
In covering Rogers' daily routine (waking up at 5; praying for a few hours for all of his friends and family; studying; writing, making calls and reaching out to every fan who took the time to write him; going for a morning swim; getting on a scale; then really starting his day), writer Tom Junod explained that Mr. Rogers weighed in at exactly 143 pounds every day for the last 30 years of his life. He didn't smoke, didn't drink, didn't eat the flesh of any animals, and was extremely disciplined in his daily routine. And while I'm not sure if any of that was because he'd mostly grown up a chubby, single child, Junod points out that Rogers found beauty in the number 143. According to the piece, Rogers came "to see that number as a gift… because, as he says, "the number 143 means 'I love you.' It takes one letter to say 'I' and four letters to say 'love' and three letters to say 'you.' One hundred and forty-three."

4. He Saved Both Public Television and the VCR
Strange but true. When the government wanted to cut Public Television funds in 1969, the relatively unknown Mister Rogers went to Washington. Almost straight out of a Capra film, his 5-6 minute testimony on how TV had the potential to give kids hope and create more productive citizens was so simple but passionate that even the most gruff politicians were charmed. While the budget should have been cut, the funding instead jumped from $9 to $22 million. Rogers also spoke to Congress, and swayed senators into voting to allow VCR's to record television shows from the home. It was a cantankerous debate at the time, but his argument was that recording a program like his allowed working parents to sit down with their children and watch shows as a family.

6. He Was Genuinely Curious about Others
Mister Rogers was known as one of the toughest interviews because he'd often befriend reporters, asking them tons of questions, taking pictures of them, compiling an album for them at the end of their time together, and calling them after to check in on them and hear about their families. He wasn't concerned with himself, and genuinely loved hearing the life stories of others. Amazingly, it wasn't just with reporters. Once, on a fancy trip up to a PBS exec's house, he heard the limo driver was going to wait outside for 2 hours, so he insisted the driver come in and join them (which flustered the host). On the way back, Rogers sat up front, and when he learned that they were passing the driver's home on the way, he asked if they could stop in to meet his family. According to the driver, it was one of the best nights of his life—the house supposedly lit up when Rogers arrived, and he played jazz piano and bantered with them late into the night. Further, like with the reporters, Rogers sent him notes and kept in touch with the driver for the rest of his life.

12. He was a perfectionist, and disliked ad libbing. He felt he owed it to children to make sure every word on his show was thought out.

Sorry for the length and thanks for the opportunity to interrupt.

by WoodenLegend on Jul 9, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doh! It should read
I want to make sure that Mr. Rogers is NOT associated with mediocrity.

by WoodenLegend on Jul 9, 2007 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mister Rogers
Wasn't he a sniper in WWII?
(No, I'm being serious)

by bornagainbruin on Jul 9, 2007 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, Mr. Rogers was not mediocre
But I don't want my defensive linemen asking lining up and asking the guy on the other side of the line "Would you like to be my friend?"

I would prefer that my football players were more like Tony Soprano than Mr. Rogers.

by Fox 71 on Jul 9, 2007 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a good point
Mean (without taking cheap shots) is definitely a good thing on the field.

by WoodenLegend on Jul 9, 2007 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!
I remember that email hoax going around. Can't blame you, there is so much crap out there. Anyway, Mr. Rogers never was in the army, it's an urban legend.

by tasser10 on Jul 9, 2007 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a bummer.
I really wanted to believe that Mister Rogers was a sniper.  I guess I'll also have to give up hope that Captain Kangaroo was a war hero on Iwo Jima.

by bornagainbruin on Jul 10, 2007 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

in defense of dohn
He's not trying to trot out excuses...that's not his job.

You can interpret what he's saying as an excuse , but it's his unbiased opinion based on facts and insider knowledge, which is much stronger than the speculation being thwarted with the "scapegoat" term.

He talked to D.J. McCarthy regularly during the season. McCarthy would have no reason to protect UCLA if he got pushed out, so I tend to take him on his word that it was a financial problem. There's no reason not to believe that.

Also, the UCLA staff could be making more money than ever and still not compare to the coaching staffs at 'SC and LSU and Florida, so that's not necessarily a contradiction.

Finally, to say that "there could be trouble" and "it could get interesting" is basically the exact same thing given the context.

I don't think the expectations this year by BN are unreasonable, and I do think Dohn's expectations are too low, but don't attack the guy's factual information that he got with speculation. Unless facts can disprove him about McCarthy and the coaching staff, I'll go with what he reported.

by Chick Hearn on Jul 9, 2007 11:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah ... uh huh
Mccarthy wasn't scapegoated at all.

He just left UCLA on his own terms. Sure. Whatever.

by bluestreet on Jul 9, 2007 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry Chick, you missed.
Tell me the last time that any coach who left any program ever said anything to the effect that "This team and the head coach are complete losers, and I would rather go anywhere else for any price than to be associated with these idiots."  No one EVER says that.  So does this mean that no one has ever believed that or thought that?  

I don't think so.  I think this is a guy who's in the coaching club telling the rest of the guys in the coaching club that he can be fired and he will not have anything negative to say.  This means that any coach who hires him will never have to worry about anything negative when it's time to fire him.

The Mafia had a word for this -- "Omerta."

If Dohn or anyone else can show me that my thesis is incorrect, I'll change my opinion.  But until then, I think basically the same thing about statements from outgoing coaches as I do about people who leave an industry "to spend more time with the family."  

by Fox 71 on Jul 9, 2007 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the biggest problem I have with Dohn's answers
is not the insider info that he claims his opinions are based on. I do have a problem with his opinions in that I disagree with them, but I dont fault him for printing what he believes based on the evidence he has (that we dont) even though he is the UCLA beat reporter. What I have a problem with is him saying that we fans "have unrealistic expectation." That is complete BS!!! He cannot be serious and expect us to give him respect after perpetuating that ridiculous myth.  Its utterly disrespectful to not just us fans but to all the players, coaches, boosters, supporters, students and fans that have built and supported our football program for so many great decades.  

by DumpDorrell on Jul 9, 2007 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nelson Rosario just committed
A HUGE get for our program.  6-6 WR that is fast and run good routes, those are hard to come by.  I think he is really underrated and this is a big get for KD and company.  We needed a big WR to go with our other guys and it gives us some insurance just in case Bateman does not academically qualify.  I think Rosario will be a star for us.

by trainwreck84 on Jul 9, 2007 6:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good get
Will mention in the notes early am.

by Nestor on Jul 9, 2007 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone on BRO said
He slows down a lot in pads (I think his 40 time is about 4.4).  There has to be some reason someone that big and that fast would only be 3 stars.  It just seems too good to be true.

Here is his Scout profile.

by SuperBruinMan on Jul 9, 2007 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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