Tuesday News & Notes

by Nestor on Sep 18, 2007 4:35 AM PDT in Football Comment 15 comments

So I am sure all of you know the big news by now. Brian Price is now eligible to waste his talent under Dorrell at UCLA. For the young man’s sake we hope he decides to red shirt and hopefully gets to play for a solid coach next season. But if I were a member of the Price family, I wouldn’t really let my son waste his ungodly talents under losers like Dorrell or Walker.

Meanwhile, speaking of the Thinker, he is furiously working hard not to fix his team but to lower expectations:

"We're not quite as good a team as most people thought," Dorrell said. "I always said that I thought we're a good Pac-10 team with a chance to win the championship."

Uh no. Nice try liar. (and I realize calling this doofus a liar may make some of you uncomfortable, but I am going to call it as it see it – liar or loser – either works perfectly to describe this clown). Everyone and their mother knew THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE YEAR for Dorrell. And now he is shameless enough to revise history? The reason why most people expected this team to contend for a championship (not just the Pac-10 championship) is because the expectations that was constantly built up by this liar and his cultist supporters during last four years. And no matter how much he tries now he is not going to able to lower it.

Meanwhile, Dorrell’s players are apparently not on the same page with their loser head coach:

Yet the players remain committed to their goals.

"We're seniors, we want to win a national championship," Breazell said. "That can still be possible, but we've got to go in and win every game.

"We're still undefeated in the Pac-10, that's our goal, the Pac-10 championship."

The national title talk, Dorrell said, was because "our players get a little bit overzealous about their thoughts and ambitions . . . and you want them to be ambitious."

Uh so I get it. So the Thinker is saying that he was letting his players do all the BSing for him.

Also, Dorrell continues to avoid taking total responsibility for Saturday’s disaster (emphasis mine):

Dorrell mostly took the blame for that fiasco at his Monday postmortem news conference, though not completely.

"That's my responsibility ultimately," he said. "It's a shared responsibility with our coaches and players."

And then later there was this: "The guys who are veterans on this team need to step up and have more consistency in their play. We have to coach better and make sure they're prepared to execute the things we need them to execute this weekend."

I just don’t understand how a kid can have any respect left for this clown who continues to blame everyone except for himself for the total mess he is created in our football program.

The players for their part are going through motions, having player only meetings, and looking at their wristbands:

"We talked about leadership, and how everybody has to buy into the program," Bruins receiver Brandon Breazell said. "There was a moment where everyone was looking at their wristbands (which has a team goal imprinted in them), to know what you're working for.

That’s what UCLA football has been reduced to under the current loser leading this program. Players are relegated to looking at silly wristbands for inspiration because Lord knows they are not getting any from the joke of a head coach who has completely destroyed this program.

GO BRUINS.

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Looking Back

Some day, we will all look back on this wretched 5 year stretch of Dorrell's time as head coach (hopefully, it will be no longer than 5 years). As time passes, the details of this or that win or loss will fade, and we will only remember "big picture" things.

In the future, when I think back to the mess during this 5 year time period, I predict I will remember a few things:

The ridiculous bracelets.
The plays stuffed down Dorrell's pants.
The humiliating blow-out losses, especially to SuC.
13-9.
Run, run, pass, punt.
The constant turnover of mediocre coaches.
Losing to mediocre teams in crappy bowl games.

I think that is how I will look back on the Dorrell years. What a sad legacy.

by Barnes2JJ on Sep 18, 2007 7:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Mine: KD's command of the English language

I did not actually hear it, but someone said KD talked about the "veteranship" on the team.

Veteranship? Is that ship like the Titanic, about to capsize into oblivion?

by bluegold on Sep 18, 2007 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good one

How could I forget his interesting command of English? There were a few more quotes today from him which made my eyes wince as I read them.

by Barnes2JJ on Sep 18, 2007 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

For me, it's that patented...

"Deer-in-the-Headlights" look that I will forever associate with Karl Dorrell. That look that says, I'm not really sure what I'm doing, I'm not sure how I can fix things, I'm in way over my head, and I'd better not say or do anything because people might realize I haven't a clue.

by norcalbruin95 on Sep 18, 2007 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Look

Saturday, that look was reflecting what was in his mind:

I'm gonna get fired, I'm gonna get fired, I'm gonna get fired.

We all know it wasn't working out adjustments to make to try to get competitive in the game.

Bob O. (Signholder #3)

by TuneMan7 on Sep 18, 2007 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Heh

The "I am so fired" look was pretty much encapsulated by his handshake with Whittngham at midfield after the game.

by CAJason80 on Sep 18, 2007 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Breazell's 2 Onside Kick Return TDs

Of course that had nothing to do with Dorrell.

by SuperBruinMan on Sep 18, 2007 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dorrell's quotes sicken me

They truly do. "So the thinker's saying he was letting the players do all the BSing for him." Great line. So our players and Dorrell our already not on the same page. And every time Dorrell has to say it's his fault he says it begrudgingly and throw players under the bus with him. Get him out of here.

by Dorrellian on Sep 18, 2007 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

N, can you find the statement from the SID

about expectations for this year?

And I remember seeing a quote from Coach Toledo's successor, not something attributed to him, that also said he was winning the Pac 10, getting the BCS bowl and beating justsc. (And I'm getting tired of typing "Coach Toledo's successor." Henceforth, it will be CTS.

Let's dig up those quotes, and stuff them down this pretender's throat. Question for the head coach: If we are not going to achieve the goals the AD set for you and which you set for yourself, please tell us the games we won't win. That way we don't have to waste our time and energy watching.

Re using the word "liar." Using that word about your adversary or his attorney is generally a no-no in stuff addressed to the Court. I usually tapdance around it with "Whether by inadvertence or design, CTS has misstated the facts." But when you're arguing to the jury, the glove some off. If the other guy lied and you can prove it, then the jury expects you to call him a liar.

We will never know a lot of what goes on in the insane asylum that is the UCLA football program. We will never know what or how much CTS knew about Coach Scott, for example, and when he knew it. But we do know what he has said to the press, and we do know the impression he intended to convey when he described his team. This was his best team, and the one going all the way. Either he knew that he was wrong in this assessment, in which case he's a liar and he should be gone, or he really didn't know how crummy the team was, in which case is phenomenally stupid and he should be gone. I think he's both a liar and stupid, and should be gone. (Plus, he should turn in his UCLA degree if he actually got one.)

by Fox 71 on Sep 18, 2007 9:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

KD's degree

"he should turn in his UCLA degree if he actually got one."

This is a very good point, did this guy ever really graduate? If so, this is very disturbing, that our great University would turn out something like this. Of course his degree was probably something like Art (no offense to those Art majors out there), it certainly wasn't English or Literature!

BB41

by bb41 on Sep 18, 2007 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I distinctly remember reading

His comments about how this was the year.

Now, all the sudden, we're not as good as people thought? So either he's a horrible evaluator of talent (likely), or he's a liar (also likely).

"This should be a pretty strong foundational year because it's your guys, every class in here is guys I have recruited," Dorrell said. "Yes, you should see a difference in this team compared to what you've seen the last three or four years."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-ucla1sep01,1,6943250.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

That would seem to put the pressure on Olson, although Coach Karl Dorrell tries to deflect that line of thinking.

If he really believed the following, then why has he been throwing Olson under the bus in press conferences?

"It would be different if he was a three-year starter and had all these young weapons, and maybe things would be on his shoulders," Dorrell said. "I think it's different because of the experience back on both sides of the ball. There's a lot of shared responsibility."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-uclarep30aug30,1,3983843.story?ctrack=2&cset=true

This whole article is more of the same, but I'd be quoting the whole thing: http://www.ocregister.com/column/bruins-ucla-karl-1837070-dorrell-jeff

by ytumamatambien on Sep 18, 2007 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least Lloyd Carr...

owns up to his inability to get the job done and takes responsibility for the team's losses. Dorrell is quick to throw Marcus Everett and all the other coaches under the bus. I'm starting to think Mr. Dorrell is the smartest man alive. I mean what other person can get paid $1 MM dollars a year, underperform, and manage to blame everyone around him and not get fired for the past 5 years. Pure genius.

by eoj703 on Sep 18, 2007 10:12 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Wristband thoughts

Would our record be different than 2-1 if the players didn't have wristbands?

Does KD have his own wristband, to remind HIMSELF not to forget something...like preparation?

If coaches have their own wristbands, then should Scott's be a handcuff? That would be a powerful reminder.

by bluegold on Sep 18, 2007 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Too bad...

Dorrell didn't have a wristband to remind himself not to forget he had a player called Manny White sitting on the bench during Dorrell's FIRST game.

Also, too bad Dorrell didn't have a wristband to remind him about about his own rule that players don't lose their starting jobs after they return from injury (Olson last year).

by Barnes2JJ on Sep 18, 2007 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

players over zealous

I have been virtually unable to read the message boards and blogs since Saturday but a cursory glance at this article and this quote jumps out at me and pisses me off even more for some reason:

The national title talk, Dorrell said, was because "our players get a little bit overzealous about their thoughts and ambitions . . . and you want them to be ambitious."

------ formerly bruinmikeh

by bruinduro on Sep 18, 2007 12:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs