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Well, how should we start this? Oh, how about going with this from Rusty Simmons in the S.F. Chronicle:

The Bruins (14-1, 2-0) toyed with Cal (10-3, 1-1) as if the Bears were their little brother in a bedroom game of hoop-on-the-door Nerf basketball.
And yet we had morons like Ted Robinson who kept talking about some kind of "rivalry" between the Cal Bears and our Ben Ball warriors. Yes, I completely realize that the Bay Area doubleheader is one of the most difficult trips in the Pac-10, if not the entire country, but that still doesn't merit the use of the word "rivalry" to describe the relationship between the basketball programs of UCLA and UC Berkeley.

Anyway, let's talk about last night's game. And we will start with Kevin Love, who right now IMHO is not only in the running for Pac-10 FOY, if he keeps up what he did in the Bay Area this past week, he will also have to get some serious consideration for the MVP award as well. The guy made defending the monster front courts of the Lopez brothers and Hardin-Anderson look like a cake walk. From the Daily News:
"I think it's incredible to be that good against those four guys," Ben Howland said. " Kevin Love played like a man today."

Neither Hardin nor Anderson made a field goal in the first half as the two combined to go 0 for 8 from the field. They finished with a combined 20 points but were 6 of 18 from the field.

The Bears made just 5 of their first 19 shots.

"We got two wins and that's what counts," Love said. "Two wins on the road against two very good teams. Most teams are going to be hard to sweep."

It would seem any freshman - even one as good as Love - would have a learning curve once he entered the Pac-10. His defense was somewhat shaky at the start of the season, but even Howland - a defensive guru - has marveled at Love's improvements in that department.

Love, who's averaging 16.7 points and 10.2 rebounds, also liked what he did offensively. He made 8 of 10 field goals - his two misses were from 3-point range - and played 30 minutes.
Love's improvement on the defensive end in just the last two weeks has been remarkable to watch. He has come a long way from the Texas game. And his improvement is not just limited to the defensive side of the court.

He is looking even smoother on the offensive side, making it easy for his team-mates to find him down low.  He is even being smarter with his outlet passes. Watch Kevin closely when he is launching those "Laser Loves." Last night, he was going through reads, just like a QB checking off his first and second options in a football game. He has been doing this a lot more since the Texas game at Pauley, when the Horn were getting back and breaking up some of his long bombs. Not last night. He was going through his reads in split seconds before launching them out. Just a delight to watch.

Also a delight to watch was our team defense during this Bay Area trip. And let's hear how the opponents feel about it.  From Jeff Faraudo in the San Jose Mercury News:
"You really have to take what the defense gives you, and they don't give you much," Cal Coach Ben Braun said. "Defensively, they're physical and they shrink the court on you. You have to be patient, can't be frustrated."

Sophomore forward Ryan Anderson, the Pac-10's top scorer at 21.6 points per game, shot 0 for 6 in the first half and wound up with 12 points only after hitting two three-pointers in the final four minutes.

"I wasn't playing like my normal self. I was a little soft," Anderson said. "I need to embrace the double teams when they come, and hit the open guys."
Well, it was a total team effort on the part of our Ben Ball warriors that made the Bears appears in their own words a little "soft." From the LA Times:
After UCLA had the fast start, the Bears never got closer than 38-36. Besides Love's effort, point guard Collison played what UCLA Coach Ben Howland called his best game of the season with 14 points and five assists. Shipp had 13 points and Westbrook added 11 and seven rebounds. Shipp's final basket, a runner in the lane, gave him 1,000 points at UCLA.

The Bears (10-3, 1-1) had been outrebounding opponents by six a game this year, but UCLA had 43 to California's 30.
DC still seems to be recovering from his knee injury and you can see he is little off on his 3 point shots. However, he was great in the second half yesterday, taking some great shots within the rhythm of our offense. Maybe it's just me. But I think it's not a coincidence that DC's game is coming along as Russell is exploding (more on that guy below) in the conference/national scene. DC is still not the same because he just doesn't have his natural explosiveness. But his game is getting better and a lot of it, IMHO, is the natural result of a competitive streak wanting to shine, when a teammate like RW is setting the standard.

And if we want to talk about team-effort, we have to talk about James Keefe. Keefe played for 4 mins yesterday. In those 4 mins, he managed to get a basket, pull down 2 rebounds, including one on the offensive end. To me, what is impressive above Keefe this year is that he looks a lot more sure of himself. He knows where to be on the court, and what his role is in the scheme of Coach Howland. And he knows the value of team. From Painter in the DN on Keefe's perspective re burning his redshirt year:
In a perfect world, Keefe would have redshirted.

But UCLA is essentially playing with a seven-man rotation and needs Keefe to play key minutes off the bench.

"You've got to put the team first and the team needed me," Keefe said. "I'm not sure what's best for me."

Keefe said he understands that UCLA has a chance to win a championship now, and that he had to play "to accomplish what we want to accomplish."
Well, Keefe is certainly doing his part now. One more point on Keefe's mins from yesterday. Keefe's 4 mins (and Stanbeck's 6 mins) allowed Coach Howland to rest Luc and AA2, who already had 2 fouls in the first half. And, more importantly, it kept our big guys sharp in the second half, allowing them to put the squeeze on the ("soft") Cal front court. It worked out perfectly in the team scheme of things.

Despite all the positives from yesterday, I do want to bring up a couple of points just to nitpick. Again, I am only bringing up these points up because I do believe there is room for improvement.

I will start with Shipp. Shipp had a great night against Stanford. He was feeling it. And he was connecting on those long range bombs as he was in rhythm. He was not in rhythm last night, going 2 for 8 from the 3 point line, finishing off the night at 4 for 13. Now I love Shipp's smooth game and his demeanor of a stone cold assassin. He never looks frazzled and always has that calm demeanor. However, I still think he needs to recognize that when he is not connecting from the outside, he can contribute in other ways to get his confidence back. One thing I loved about AA was, during the nights he was not connecting from outside, he would focus all his energy on defense, and try to get points another way by trying to drive inside (without being out of control). My guess is, at this point, Coach Howland knows what he is going to get from Shipp offensively (and not get defensively) and he is willing to live with that. All I am asking from Shipp is to play in control a little more, recognizing the limitations in his game. That is all.

Second, I understand Coach Howland's reasoning in bringing Russell off the bench and keeping Luc at the 3. It helps with his substitution pattern and it was great yesterday. But, to me, Luc still looks out of place at the 3, picking up unnecessary fouls chasing around the other team's SF. The team looks so much better off when he is at the 4, swarming around the boards both offensively and defensively, and being a total menace.


Photo Credit: AP Photo/Ben Margot(via ESPN)

Again, we will see how long Howland stays with the current lineup starting AA2. For now though, you can't argue with the results.

Anyway, I think those are nitpicks. But I am sure the coaching staff is aware of them and I have no doubt they are going to try to find ways to work around them.

Going back to last night's game, big ups to the Bay Area Bruin Nation. Even with the quality of FSN broadcasting, we could hear the Bruins often dominating the Bear contingent at Haas with all the UCLA chants. It was awesome to hear them own that place.

And we will end this wrap up with Russell. From the LA Times again:
"Nobody just stops me," Westbrook said. "I just keep on going and when I scored, I kept going, getting back on defense. I've got to see this one though. I've got to see how it looks. From what my teammates say, it looks nice."
Well RW, you asked for it, so here you go again:



Nice is definitely a word for it.

GO BRUINS.

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Hey! Jamal Boykin!
Remember how you always dreamed of being immortalized on a poster, captured for all eternity in the middle on an incredible dunk?

Oh, that's not what you meant?

by Fedup on Jan 6, 2008 9:58 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rivalry
Well, I think he was more remarking on the somewhat unofficial rivalry held between Cal and UCLA.

Maybe it's more of a recent student thing, but we sure do hate them bears.

by mitch on Jan 6, 2008 10:00 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

meh
I never cared about hating the Bears. That is all saved up for the thug worshiping clowns from South Central.

by Nestor on Jan 6, 2008 10:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

..or..
..the elitist snobs from Stanford.

by whp68 on Jan 6, 2008 10:32 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah
I couldn't care less about those guys either. :-)

by Nestor on Jan 6, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

JS's 4-Pt Play
I agree that Josh was a bit out of sync, especially in the second half, but his 4-Pt play turned a tight 7 point lead into a comfortable 11 point spread and it was smooth sailing after that point.  Josh is the leader of this team . . . and RW is just sick!

by charnaw on Jan 6, 2008 10:03 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Starting Line Up
Do you guys think that putting AA2 in the starting line up (instead of RW) has contributed positively to our good first half starts?  I know that we're all driven crazy by the team's sometimes slow, get-down-by-10-points first halves against quality teams, and I've been ecstatic that we started strong these last 2 games.  Why?  Even though Westbrook hasn't started, he's come off the bench at absolute crucial times and it's amazaing to me (a basketball amateur) that Howland seems to know exactly when to insert players for maximum effect.  Howland's knack is crazy.  On an unrelated note...it drives me crazy that WSU is ranked ahead of us.  #4?  WTF?  They squeaked by Washington last night, barely, and only because Washington couldn't finish.  I can't wait to face WSU next Sat.  Go Bruins!  

by bruininthelbc on Jan 6, 2008 10:04 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I think
it's just because they're undefeated. Like when we were ranked second to UNC and even though we played an incredible game against Michigan State, the voters didnt give us the top spot because UNC is still undefeated.

by uclachem87 on Jan 6, 2008 10:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rivalry = "So Cal" jealousy
I lived in the Bay Area for a few years and for those of you who are not aware of this: they hate "So Cal." They never use the words Los Angeles, just "So Cal" and they say it like they are talking about the plague. Their conventional wisdom dictates that every trouble in the Bay Area is caused by "So Cal" because we take their water. I say keep your water and we'll keep our tax revenue.

Cal fans in particular are resentful of UCLA for using their song, their colors and for surpassing them in athletic success, international popularity and just about everything else. Although they call it a rivalry what they are really describing is unacknowledged jealousy and resentment.

Nice job RW... it must be the water.

by UCngLA on Jan 6, 2008 10:07 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

And they think SF is "The City."
It actually is not "The City."  Anyone who ever watched Dragnet knows the show started with a panoramic view of the Los Angeles area, and then Jack Webb would say, "This is The City.  Los Angeles California.  I work here.  I'm a cop."

I think Dragnet and Jack Webb is a more authoritative source than some NoCal version of Doh!.

And doesn't "NoCal" sound like it's a diet version of "So Cal."  

by Fox 71 on Jan 6, 2008 10:24 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nor Cal...
From what i know, its usually referred to as Nor Cal,  which is a brand name from up north.

But I agree, NoCal sounds dumb :-).

by kidro2001 on Jan 6, 2008 1:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's OUR song now
I'll probably get killed by the lawyers on here for this, but "possession is 9/10ths of the law" and we own the hell out of "Sons of Westwood". I bet if you played that song for random people across the country, more people would identify it with UCLA than with Cal. It's ours now. Deal with it.

by Tydides on Jan 6, 2008 10:35 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

one nitpick
as far as the "SoCal" v. "Los Angeles" usage, I have  seen the exact opposite usage over the years; typically, people in the bay area use "LA" to refer to anything between Santa Barbara and the San Diego County line. "SoCal" is a far less common usage up here. Otherwise, spot on.

by bruinhoo on Jan 6, 2008 12:02 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of "Nice"
Nice prediction on how the game would come out, Nestor!  It was pretty much spot on.  I should take you to Vegas with me!  

by bruin7982 on Jan 6, 2008 11:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I Can't Get Enough...
...of Russell Westbrook. Aside from the vicious dunk on sorry ass Jamal Boykin, and his alley oop play we forget he had seven rebounds against against a big Cal front court. He even challenged Hardin on a dunk. Westbrook is fearless. We need a Westbrook t-shirt.

by apbruin on Jan 6, 2008 1:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Could it be
that Westbrook turns into an AA-version of Manu Ginobli for us?  That spark off the bench that picks us up right when we would be having the after-the-quick-opening-run letdown.  Just as long as none of our guys start kung-fu-kicking guys in the Achilles, I don't really have a problem being more like the Spurs.

by yarrrp on Jan 6, 2008 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, but unlike Ginoseli, he doesn't flop! :-D
Prediction: UCLA wins conference 14-4.

by Howland on Jan 6, 2008 1:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

T-Shirt?
Something along the lines of "Russell's Athletic" ?
Duke and North Carolina called: They want Steve Lavin back. GO BRUINS!!

by Allofmybros on Jan 6, 2008 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Westbrook alleyoop
The alleyoop was a fantastic p1lay that few are talking about because it was overshadowed by the dunk.

On the alleyoop, Westbrook was bumped pretty good - it would have been Pass Interference if they were playing football.  Then, he catches the ball cleanly and gently bounces it off the backboard for two points before he hits the ground.  

by bornagainbruin on Jan 6, 2008 3:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On the rivalry
Perhaps I feel this way only because I live in the Bay Area, but Cal-UCLA is a rivalry. Not on the level of USC-UCLA, of course, but I would call Cal our #2 overall rival and #3 in hoops (behind Arizona). This rivalry stems from the fact that we owned them for such a long time in football (18 straight wins through 1989) and basketball (52 straight wins ending in 1986), and from the fact that they think we stole their fight song but the entire rest of the world thinks that Cal stole our fight song because they think of it as UCLA's fight song. There's also a NoCal-SoCal tint to the rivalry, with a ton of Bruins living up here and Bears living down there and the general disagreement between Dodgers/Giants and 49ers/Rams (in the old days when the Rams were here).

There's nothing offensive about calling something a rivalry. Fact is that we own them for the most part, making it a rivalry that hurts Cal fans a ton as they keep losing to us. It's also (to me) a rivlary without bitterness and hatred, both of which run rampant in the UCLA-USC rivalry. I wouldn't go as far as to say we have mutual respect, but it's nice to have a friendly rivalry with the other great public university in the Golden State, knowing that the two universities are excellent in so many respects and that, as I said, we own them in sports (and they counter that they have more Nobel laureates, whoop de do).

by BruinsRule on Jan 6, 2008 1:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

It's SoCal v. NoCal
As another NoCal resident, my opinion is that it's not UCLA/CAL, it' SoCal v. NoCal.  They hate everything about Southern California, stemming from an inferiority complex that has gathered steam over the years as the center of gravity has migrated to the southern part of the State.  

From the NoCal perspective, a win for any NoCal team over a SoCal team -- any win -- is a victory of good over evil, of one way of life over another.  They hate us for stealing their water.  They hate us for Hollywood.  For our beautiful women.  And I guess now because we're pretty much dominating them in every sport.

Since their 49ers went belly up in the 90's, they haven't won a thing.  Since the turn over the century, we've got three championships with the Lakers, one each for the Angels and the Ducks, as well as two of the most successful collegiate programs in the country (sorry, but for purposes of this discussion, the TrOJans get lumped into the discussion).

So when we beat Cal and Stanford over an early season week-end, it's a couple of nice wins for us.  When they beat UCLA or the TrOJans, it's a victory of epic proportions.  Talk about a lack of perspective, the NoCals are silly and petty, kinda pathetic really.  At any rate, when we win, I never rub it in their faces.  But I do wear my championship hat around (my favorite was when the Angels beat San Francisco in that very memorable World Series) and don't say a word.  I've got scoreboard, and that's enough for me.

I think what you see at Pauley says it all - no banner goes up unless it's an NCAA Championship, and as we know, those 11 banners take up a lot of real estate.  And that, my friends, is the difference between SoCal and NoCal and why I count the days until I can come back home.

Go Bruins and SoCal really does rule!!!

by waters96 on Jan 6, 2008 2:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Cal/UCLA Rivalry
I'd say the rivalry is more about academics than athletics--at least among current students.

But it does feel great to brag of our football and basketball victories to all my friends at Cal.

by bhbruin on Jan 6, 2008 3:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Again with the rivalry
I always thought Cal were our secondary rivals, between the Fight Song and the "Southern Branch" and all that stuff.

For me the two rivalries are summed up rather succinctly by the immortal phrase:

"Cal sucks but USC swallows"

by irishbruin on Jan 6, 2008 4:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Will those who feel there is a rival...
between UCLA and Cal please give your graduation years or age. I am curious to see if this is some recent development in the past ten years. I don't ever remember feeling any rivalry against anyone other than usc.

by UCngLA on Jan 6, 2008 5:25 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Yeap
I will never consider Cal as a "rival." Ain't gonna happen.

by Nestor on Jan 6, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

UCLA/Cal
I'd say there is a rivalry and I am set to graduate next year in Spring '09.

by bhbruin on Jan 6, 2008 6:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not a rival
Cal is not relevant enough or talented enough or anything enough to be considered a rival.  They are no more a rival than Cal State Northridge.

by Fox 71 on Jan 6, 2008 7:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

A Minor Rivalry, but still...
It looked like it was going to be a rivalry there for awhile, with a lot of help from Lavin, but things have been toned down with the arrival of Howland and, as Walton said, order has been restored to the universe.

But the rivalry issue is interesting.  In case any capable historians are around, perhaps they can talk about how the Bruins fared during Cal's resurgence, which was led by two elite NBA PGs, Kevin Johnson and Jason Kidd.  I'm not sure how it worked for Cal (AD-wise), but at a certain point their athletic programs decided to be serious.  Todd Bozeman came in, cheated, but brought top players in.  It's an ugly chapter in the long run, but goes under "if you're not cheating you're not trying," and the Bears were finally trying.  And Braun seemed to be a very solid hire, especially when Lavin was at UCLA.  And then Cal brought in Tedford, and all of a sudden they had a football team.

Another important thing happened during this transition.  The UC system was no longer generously supported by the state, and Cal and UCLA both set about raising money and building private endowments to go along with their public support.  We know about this at UCLA (and BN has covered the football coaching side exhaustively).  At Cal it coincided with the growth of the "NorCal" high tech explosion and a much more dynamic Bay Area economy in 2005 than in 1985.  From what I hear Haas Pavilion is now a great place to watch basketball, and Tedford is trying to push through football stadium improvements that are further advanced than any Pauley upgrade.

In the end, it's a California thing, and a public university, UC thing.  Cal (or UCLA) is not the enemy:  it's pretty obvious that USC and Stanford are the enemy.  But if Braun could recruit a little bit better, and if Howland wasn't such a stone cold killer, there might be a little bit of a rivalry going.  The hope is that Neuheisel will pass Tedford and Bellotti by like they're standing still, and go straight for Carroll's throat, but that's not going to happen overnight.  

But one could go on and on about NorCal vs. SoCal, and then you could get into the academics...  And the saddest thing (Neuheisel/Guerrero/Howland/Kevin Love/RW/DC/JS/LRMM/AA/LRM aside) is that the biggest academic upsurge is coming from USC under Samples... that's really annoying, and came out of nowhere.    

by zhivooden on Jan 6, 2008 8:21 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pac-10 FOY
Interesting that you seem to think that Kevin Love is the front-runner for the Pac-10 FOY.  It seems to me that the best freshman in the conference thus far has been James Harden of ASU.  Harden, playing for the most improved team in the conference, is first on his team in points (17.6) and steals (1.8), and second on his team in rebounds (5.4), assists (2.5),  and blocks (0.6) while shooting over 80% from the free-throw line, 56% from the field, and 47% from the three-point line.  If anyone seems to be running away with this award it seems to be Harden but obviously Love gets all the publicity.  It will undoubtedly be one of the hardest years ever to decide who wins this award due to all the the extremely talented freshmen in the Pac-10 this season.

by turs12 on Jan 7, 2008 1:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nice try
Harden has been playing very well, but not consistently. He stunk it up in ASU's two losses. Love has been far more consistent and almost averages a double-double. Right now he is the front-runner, especially when you account for his defense against the front-lines of Stanford and Cal this past weekend.

by tasser10 on Jan 7, 2008 7:34 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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