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Not How We Play Ben Ball

The day after we lost our first game against Texas Dan Guerrero fired Karl Dorrell. The day after we lost our second game against the Gap Closers CRN hired Norm Chow. I don’t think we are getting any such life lines. No matter how badly we want it no one is going to fire Kathy Olivier today. And even firing a worthless coach like her will not make the sour taste go away from Sunday.

There was a reason we were scared about this game. Let’s put one myth to rest. I have seen some comments here and there today about how we lost to some team with no talent on its roster. Well that assertion is BS and not based on any kind of fact. Bruins were not taking on a team like Oregon State yesterday. They were taking on a team which featured 2 5 star and 5 4 star athletes that Romar had stockpiled based on his early success when he arrived at Seattle. [See scout.com ratings] That kind of talent isn’t too far from our team which featured 3 5 stars and 6 4 star recruits from last four years. Huskies were not some little sisters of the poor. Yes, they have had a horrific season (which is not going to turn because of an aberration on Sunday). But the reason for that hasn’t been lack of talent but due to Romar and his staff (as admitted by Romar) inability to develop and harness the talent and put together a cohesive team. However, as we witnessed during the Lavin era, as long as there is talent, even a poorly coached, dysfunctional team playing jungle ball can have its day against well coached, fundamentally sound programs every now and then. And that’s what happened yesterday. The Huskies came out with fire and passion, and for once played up to their talent. Our team (the entire team) came out flat, failed to match that passion and intensity, and inexplicably lived up the standards of Ben Ball they have set last few years in Westwood.

The loss was on the entire team. The entire team ranging from the head coach to the 9th man in rotation shoulder the responsibility for this loss. By now everyone has already pointed how DC had the worst game of his UCLA career. He knows it and he admitted as such following the game. From Dohn:

Collison went 1 for 8 from the field and turned the ball over eight times in 38 minutes. His three points was his lowest output since going scoreless in the 2006 national title game loss to Florida.

"It was bad. It was horrible," Collison said. "I wasn't aggressive at all, like I was before. There's no word to explain it. I tried to pick my teammates up. I really feel bad. I really take credit for this team's loss."
DC will snap out of it. Something happens to him in Seattle. I don’t what it is. But he gets spooked in the Emerald City. Yesterday’s performance was basically a repeat of last year’s nightmare for DC when he went 2 for 15 in an atrocious 5 pt performance against the Huskies in Seattle. Sometimes I guess there is no explanation for it.

However, I wonder why Coach Howland took so long to make a defensive switch. I get that DC is probably the best on ball defensive guard in our team (and one of the best in the country). However, by second half it was clear he wasn’t getting it done. So wouldn’t it have made sense to switch Westbrook to Dentmon earlier in the game? That could be a good question to ask CBH in this week’s press conference.

However, it is unfair to put this loss just on DC. The entire team didn’t play up to our standards yesterday. Shipp voiced the cold reality on yesterday’s performance following the game (from Dohn linked above):
"They out-worked us, out-hustled us and we just weren't prepared," UCLA junior wing Josh Shipp said. "We didn't have it. They out-physicalled us."
Usually we hear those comments from opposing players and coaches after our games. The entire team bears responsibility for getting its rear end handed to them around the rim. Yes, we knew that the Huskies were a very good rebounding team. We knew they lead the league in offensive rebounds. And we were at a disadvantage without Luc that was going to hurt us in that department. Yet there was no excuse for the way we were thoroughly dismantled, dominated, and destroyed around the boards. Honestly it was oure entire frontcourt of Love, AA2, Mata-Real, Keefe, and Dragovic who let us down. They collectively just didn’t bring it. Time after time they were letting Brockman, Wallace et al. haul in rebounds to give those guys more opportunities. They were getting outworked and outhustled by Holiday and Bryan-Amanings of the world.

Even the guys who had decent days in the scoring column – Shipp, Westbrook, and Love – didn’t have good over all games. Shipp still wasn’t able to connect from long range. Westbrook was responsible for number of silly and careless turnovers, and Love frequently was taking time off on the defensive side.

And speaking of Love, I don’t appreciate this kind of comments from the freshman (also from Dohn):
"I was frustrated," Love said. "My touches were limited. They were double and triple teaming me, but it was just a tough loss. I have to keep spacing and my teammates have to find me. I saw that I was open a bunch of times, but it's up to them to see that and up to coach (Ben) Howland to tell the guys to give me the ball.

"It's not really my call. I'm just working and playing as hard as I can and be a team guy."
Uhm Kevin needs to stay quiet. He is not in the position to call out his team-mates considering how he was being slow on defensive, not rotating over, and frankly at times impersonating Chase Budinger while going up against Brockman. Kevin is having an incredible year. We love what he has brought to our program. But he needs to realize UCLA is much bigger than a prized freshman. He needs to get back to work and work with his team-mates to have a better game both on the offensive and defensive side, instead of worrying about what Coach Howland needs to do. In other words he needs to keep quiet particularly after games in which his own performance left much to be desired.

It wasn’t just the star players. Dragovic was horrible. He wasted away all the confidence he had been gaining till yesterday, by taking hurried shots, wild plays that effectively amounted to TOs. Same for Keefe, who started off all right but lost his composure down the stretch. There were three straight series during which he was the source for bad shots, turn overs, and stupid foul that threw away any chance of grabbing hold of momentum for our team. Stanback looked lost as well. Just really disappointing performance from all three given how they have been showing promises at various times on the road. When these guys they just need to make sure they are steady, playing smart ball, and trying not to do too much. I imagine they will recover eventually but they were all part of a total team letdown in Seattle.

Lastly, I was going to make a point about officiating, but it looks BHW beat me to the punch. What he said.

Anyway, it was an awful Sunday. But the sky is not falling. Going into this trip, I was hoping for a split without Luc. We got it. I just thought the victory was going to come in Seattle and I got greedy after Thursday night. We are tied for the conference lead but we have the head to head win over Stanford. At this point my advise to you is not get too caught up whether we are going to bring banner number 12. Honestly, my main concern right now is holding on the Pac-10 title. Its not going to be easy. I won’t be surprised if there are couple of more losses lurking around the horizon. Coach Howland had said the Pac-10 champion may end with a 14-4 record. He may turn out to be prophetic. The trick for our team is not to get down on itself too much, and figure out how to play their game. Because what we saw yesterday afternoon: that’s not how we play Ben Ball.

GO BRUINS.

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excellent commentary
i agree with these comments, washington was playing at the top of their game and we were at the bottom of ours

it is important to remember a few things about this team:

1-they don't make excuses
2-this was a very abnormal performance
3-this was a classic trap game

personally imho that the illness that was reported on collison earlier in the week impacted him.  he is too classy and no one on the team will ever use excuses like that, they shouldn't, and it isn't an excuse, but i think it does bode well for future performance...

we will of course see whether we have anything to worry about saturday

by glassbruin on Feb 11, 2008 6:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

If Love keeps this up...
Kevin Love's inability to keep his damn mouth shut is pretty much the only thing not to like in this kid.  Unfortunately, it's a really big thing.  It potentially poisons the team, turns fans off, and generally makes him look like a big baby.  Complain to your family, complain to your coach (privately), complain to your girlfriend, etc. But WHATEVER you do, don't complain to the media!  For such a smart guy, he sure says some idiotic crap to exactly the wrong people. This is not an isolated incident. Also, I'm not sure which game he was watching, but I didn't notice too many missed opportunities when it came to him getting the ball.  As he stated, he was being doubled and tripled. I know he wants the ball, but he's rapidly approaching T.O. territory.  Somebody (like his  dad) needs to check this dude.  If he keeps this up, it might just make me not so sad to see him go at the end of the season.

by kballs on Feb 11, 2008 6:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Missing Something?
Please don't think I am pointing this out at your expense, but I have not seen a lot of commentary on this site -- or other places, for that matter -- excoriating Kevin Love for running his mouth. In fact, it has been just the opposite. He has been complemented (and justifiably so) for his reserved and circumspect press interaction.

You and Nestor's points are well taken; there is no place for bitching, whining, and sour grapes even though it's what the press is looking for. Making excuses and complaining is demeaning of one's own ability.

Speaking of reasons to complain, however, an exception might be made for the inbounds play with about 2:00 left to play. I believe it was Poindexter who whanged on off of Aboya's nose to avoid a five-second call. Several in the game commentary thread thought it was classless and you can add my name to that list. I still wonder why the refs didn't call a "T".

Up until that point, I was ready to concede that we were out-hustled. That act made me sincerely sorry we didn't have yet another game against these buttholes.

They go up there on my sh-t list of opponents I hope the Bruins destroy at every opportunity they meet -- right below LSJU and the Condoms.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Feb 11, 2008 6:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, I Agree
I love what K-Love has brought to the team and we need him if we have any aspirations to hang a 12th banner, but I could do w/o all of his complaining.  If the team wins, Kevin will come out and say that his teammates fed him the ball and he was happy.  If they lose, he complains that he didn't get enough touches, he was frustrated about it, but oh well, it's not up to him?  WTF?  IMHO, he seems to absolve himself of any role in the Bruins losing.  Based on what we saw yesterday afternoon against the Huskies, there is PLENTY of blame to go around, including some for the Golden Child.  I agree, complain to your coach and teammates in private, no need to air this dirty laundry and make the whole team look bad.

by bruininthelbc on Feb 11, 2008 8:56 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Somewhat Agree
I don't think anyone in sports is even remotely close to TO territory, and especially not KLove, but he shouldn't be talking to the media about his touches. It sort of flies in the face of the "it's all about the team" mentality he's been talking about. I just didn't see many opportunities that they missed to feed him the ball. I don't think he quite understands that yet, especially with double teams coming with the personnel that Washington has. Earlier in the season, they were missing some definite opportunities to get him involved down low, but yesterday was not one of those days.

by Tydides on Feb 11, 2008 9:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I got a little carried away
Yeah, in retrospect the whole T.O. comment was probably a little over the top.  Guess it just bugs me that much.  

by kballs on Feb 11, 2008 10:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Have to reluctantly agree
KLove does almost everything right on and off the court, but sadly the comments here are spot on wrt to his post game comments on touches.  He's a young guy so it can be forgiven to a degree but Howland needs to pull him aside and put the clamp on this sort of thing before it pisses his teammates off to the degree that they actually do start "accidentally" missing opportunities to get him the ball.

UW played great D yesterday, especially on Love.  The passing angles were not there and to the credit of our guys, they did not force the ball.  We didn't effectively drive and dish either which is often a good way to get Love involved if the pass to the post isn't there.  Again, I agree that I didn't see a lot of missed opportunities.

KLove has to realize that this is already a situation where upperclassmen are prone to jealousy given the hype and the fact that most of the guys have been to two final fours and know they are good.  In that sort of environment, comments about teammates not getting him the ball enough are totally counterproductive.  I'm hoping this is the exception to KLove's true feelings about the topic and that we're missing some of the context/body language, etc. when it's translated to print.  But I'm starting to wonder frankly.

by TRex on Feb 11, 2008 2:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On a positive note
Don't want to be too critical...I do think KLove's comments are a problem but I also believe Howland will sort it out.  Howland's teams inspire crazy confidence - I believe they will always find a way to win games - so it's frankly almost shocking when they don't.  This is in stark contrast to the Lavin years where you were constantly paranoid about our ability to lose games in any and all situations.

Bottom line is it is a great time to be a Bruin fan.   I like our team's chances in the tourney regardless of seed - I don't see any teams out there that I worry we don't have a shot at beating.

by TRex on Feb 11, 2008 2:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I cringed reading that
Whether it was taken out of context or not, it doesn't help that it is in print.  We heard about these grumblings earlier in the season.  I don't like it at all.  Hopefully, this is nothing at all because if it isn't, this will really mess with chemistry.  

by BlueReign on Feb 11, 2008 2:25 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

True about Kevin
The writing was on the wall at Wazzu Thursday night if you ask me. Loves interior defense was suspect and I told my buddy right then and there that CBH needs to let him know about it before the Huskie game. Well,it does not look like anything was done about it because our interior defense was like Swiss cheese. Sometimes losses like this rally a team together and make them stronger. I truly hope this is the case because getting swept by SUC would be nauseating. I honestly feel that this loss will galvanize our squad. Let's get past this horrible loss and make the changes that need to be made. I am willing to bet we see a beast of a team against SUC on Sunday! GO BOYS GO!
Go UCLA!

by madmaxucla on Feb 11, 2008 6:37 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Take the Good w/ The Bad...
You learn to deal with the bad in someone if the good outweighs it. You can't expect Kevin Love to stay quiet and not question his team, considering he came in as a top recruit and feels he can rightfully do so. Because no one else has stepped up, he apparently is taking charge. I hate to say it, but look at the Chicago Bulls as an example. Joke Noah stepped up and called out his team because no one else would. He felt he had to because, as hard as it is to say, he's been a winner before, so he thinks he knows what is needed to win again.
With no Afflalo or Farmar to get in the rest of the Bruins faces, the leader position is up for grabs. And right now, it feels like K.Love may be gunning for that spot.  

by RScal on Feb 11, 2008 7:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sideshow Noah
Noah also got bench by his teammates.  There are other avenues of which to express his frustration besides the media.  This isn't Lake Oswego, this is the second-largest media market in the nation.  Love's got NBA aspirations, well, here's rule #1: "keep it in-house".  

by ishXdavid on Feb 11, 2008 8:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair
to Noah (ugh, but I am a Bulls fan), he got benched for getting into an altercation with Ben Wallace (and someone should have gotten into an altercation with Ben Wallace who has been mailing it in all season long). He did whine to the media too, but he shouldn't have (although what he said was at least right - I disagree with what Love was saying). Of course I have a problem with anyone going to the media whether they are a 10-year vet or a freshman/rookie. Keep it inside the team.

by Raisin on Feb 11, 2008 11:12 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hate to say it
Far be it from me to stick up for Noah, but the "all of his teammates forcing him to the bench" was not quite accurate.

As for Love, while the frustration of losing while not taking full advantage of your abilities is understandable, he does not need ot share those frustrations with the media.

by bruinhoo on Feb 11, 2008 11:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Apples and oranges
Noah stepped up and called out a Bulls team which has done nothing since the Jordan years. Calling out the Bulls is similar to some hot shot recruit calling out some program like Oregon.

Kevin Love is a freshman in a UCLA program that is coming off two Final-4s. It was his team-mates like Shipp, Collison, Mata-Real who have done the work of putting together something special in last four years.

If Love wants to be a leader he needs to earn it. I remember Afflalo and Farmar deferring to Dijon Thompson in their freshman year. Love needs to show the same respect to his team-mates.

So comparison to Noah/Bulls if off base. Bulls (the current version) is not the "UCLA" of the NBA.

by bluestreet on Feb 11, 2008 9:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Love is RIGHT
I have wondered all year if Love's mouth would get him in trouble with his teammates.  Who knows - maybe it already has, and that's why he's not getting the ball as much.  There's a lot on the line for the rest of these guys as they look towards the NBA and getting drafted.  And it's true that he is a little too confident for his own good sometimes.  But here's the thing:  HE'S RIGHT.  I dont care if he is quadruple teamed.  The guy gets it done, time after time after time.  I don't care if he's really only 6-8.  He scores.  He passes back out. He gets things moving. Love should be the focal point of the offense, because other than Westbrook's incredible ability to break down a defense and do something intuitively smart with the ball (including shoot it) - which has seemingly become lost on DC, even in his better games - the team still looks lost on offense way too often.  This is the only real stain on Ben (other than not developing Luc's offensive skills more).  So as long as we have Love for this one year, I'd say we should do whatever we can to get him involved.    

One more thing.  If Drago ("he will break us"), Stanbeck or Keefe has any major role on this team next year, we will not win 20 games, and we may not finish about .500 in conference.  It's plainly obvious that Drago does not fit Ben Ball (let alone D-I at this point), Stanbeck is a bit player, and Keefe is a serviceable but SPASTIC role player.  It's a crime that LMR has lost any time to Keefe at all.

by JimChones on Feb 11, 2008 8:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Wrong
You write as if Love hasn't been the focal point of our offense. Were you watching the games against Oregon, Arizona, Washington State earlier in the season when Love was the "focal point" of our offense?

Are you arguing that Love is not the "focal point" of our offense despite the fact that he is the freaking leading scorers of this team.

News flash. This is not Kansas State or SuC where a hot shot comes in and automatically is entitled to taking 25-30 shots a game. Doesn't work that way.

Love's team-mates have done a lot to get him involved. They have been running the offense through him and centered around him.

They didn't get it done yesterday. But as N said it was a total team failure and it was not just based on the fact that Love didn't get enough touches.

Love also screwed up on D time after time. So instead of whining in the press he needs to STFU a little and figure out what can he do to make his team better.

And LMR lost some time to Keefe this game because Keefe had a great game against Wazzu. He will get his mins eventually. But yesterday LMR was also getting dominated by Brockman like rest of our frontcourt.

It also sounds like you haven't been watching. This team has had three bad games on offense. They are 21-3, leading the Pac-10 and has stats pointing them as one of the best offensive teams in the nation. Its not our team who looks lost on our offense, sounds like you are lost when watching our games. In other words you sound like bandwagoning UCLA hoops fan speaking up after a rare loss.

by bluestreet on Feb 11, 2008 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I lost him after
"I don't care if he's quadruple teamed".

by Tydides on Feb 11, 2008 9:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Forget offense
Giving up 70 pts is the problem. Yeah part of that goes on DC because his guy did the scoring, but I saw on numerous occasions DC direct him right into K-Love--and then Love did not help out. This reminded me of the Lakers in Shaq-Kobe days: pick it up to hammer down the good team, then struggle against the rummy. Of course those Lakers won 3 rings, so who knows, maybe it doesn't matter.

by jjreicher on Feb 11, 2008 8:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thanks ...
for your honesty and calling it as you see it.
Go Bruins

by Achilles on Feb 11, 2008 8:19 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I enjoy watching
K-love play, but I can do without his comments. He is acting like the only reason the team wins is because of him. Last time I checked this team has gone back to back final 4's!

I guarantee Howland will address this with him..and put him in place. Love or anyone else isn't above the team!

And if he does keep having this attitude he will definitely have a rude awaking once he reaches the next level. For someone at his size he won't be dominating the post at all.

by abby8065 on Feb 11, 2008 9:05 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Noah and Love
 don't have the right to call out their teammates. Love is Freshman and Noah is Rookie. Neither has accomplished anything in their respective fields. Winning titles in High school doesn't mean anything in college; and winning titles in college doesn't mean anything in the NBA.

But here is also the difference between the two..as much as I hate Noah, he was calling out his teammates for not playing with passion and intensity. Love is calling his teammates for not giving him the damn ball. Calling out teammates never brings players together, it only breads resentment. Hopefully this will bring a little humility to Love.

by abby8065 on Feb 11, 2008 9:17 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That's disappointing
to see that quote from Love.  I watched the game and Brockman and Wallace took him to school, especially blowing him out with their energy.  It was a team loss, because he needs help from guys like Aboya, Keefe and Lorenzo but I did not see the first half as any one person's fault.  He was to blame, his energy was bad in first half and most of the game.  

And he needs to learn to not show up the refs and be demonstrative, asking for fouls or pushes or techs.  Just play and let the coaches worry about that.  I hope Howland ripped them a new one at half time and after because they deserved it.  Good news is they got it out of their systems and it shouldn't happen again with the low energy.  Maybe the depressing, gloomy climate took it out of them.

by bruin95 on Feb 11, 2008 10:43 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

We need to calm down..
I realize there's a lot of emotion here about a subject arguably near and dear to our hearts: UCLA basketball/athletics and we don't -- or shouldn't -- walk around like those mindless gorts who love the stuff that Figueroa U. puts out.

But also, we have to remember how frustrated we'd be if this were in the first round of the NCAA tournament.

Man, I'd lose it too when UCLA would head up north and blow one against Oregon or (especially) Stanford in their barns. I hated those Sunday afternoon upsets. But I knew Wooden would get it straightened out by tournament time; he seemed to 10 times in 12 years. And we can be glad that Ben (Like The Coach before him) is on the case. This'll get squared away and we'll get back to some serious ass-kicking during the stretch run.

Besides, like someone posted here, we'll be in the tournament and these ball-throwing-nose-breaking thugs will be watching us on TV.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Feb 11, 2008 11:33 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agree
I trust CBH as he has earned it the past three seasons.  He will likely right a ship, that is not far off course.  It is also likely that we will lose another in Pac 10 play and perhaps two more.  We still have a trip to the desert that is going to be very tough.  And Stanford is improving.  Worried..?  No.  This team is growing, is not 100% healthy and is a scary matchup for all the other teams that have to face us.  They will be ready come tourney time.  Whether its a one, two or three seed, I am confident that they will bring their A+ game.  This is alot better than Lavins last year, first year or any in between.

by popopapa on Feb 11, 2008 1:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Predicted 15-3...
Hopefully its more like 16-2, but we shall see. Like you said, "In Howland We Trust"...
We could only wish to be so lucky and have the team be healthy all season long or play a wonderful schedule a la Memphis...

by RScal on Feb 11, 2008 2:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

E-mailing the pac-10
I'm e-mailing Tom Hansen in regards to the inbounds play with Aboya. I couldn't find any information for Bill McCabe, the coordinator of men's baskebtall officiating. If anyone else is interested in doing so, here is his information: Tom Hansen, Pac-10 Commissioner: - thansen@pac-10.org Coordinator of Men's Basketball Officiating: - Bill McCabe (no e-mail address listed) PACIFIC-10 CONFERENCE 1350 Treat Blvd., Suite 500, Walnut Creek, CA 94597-8853 Phone: (925) 932-4411 Fax: (925) 932-4601

by Raisin on Feb 11, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

If only I were at home...
And not out here on the east coast. The Pac-10 HQ is within waking distance of my pre-law school workplace - the times I daydreamed of walking over and giving Hansen a piece of my mind regarding his incompetence in running the conference. Or just leaving a flaming bag of dog poo in front of his office door.

by bruinhoo on Feb 11, 2008 11:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Love, please learn!
The least that Kelvin can benefit from talking to coach Wooden is learning from the following quote:

"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes. When you blame others you are trying to excuse yourself. When you make excuses you cannot properly evaluate yourself. Without proper evaluation, failure is inevitable."

"My daughter's initials are UCLA"

by AeroBruin on Feb 11, 2008 2:16 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Point the finger elsewhere
Seems to me that Howland is getting away here unscathed. This is not the first time UCLA has come unprepared for a game, and it will not be the last. I think the coach needs to take a serious Mea Culpa here and perhaps devise a plan B when his offense gets snuffed, which will probably be more frequently as teams catch on. An offense can rely only so much on the athleticism of the players. Sometimes just a good o' planning and guidence will do. Runs out of timeouts with two minutes to play in a close game, jeez!

by brewinz on Feb 11, 2008 2:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about?
What makes you believe that Howland didn't have the team prepared? Do you evidence of that? This guy studies more game film than probably any other coach in America. His team is always prepared. They might not execute well, or bring in the intensity but he does prepare them each week! Taking UCLA to back to back final 4's shows me that Howland always prepares for his opponents!

UCLA played like crap so be it..they couldn't hit a 3 pointer to save their lives that is the coaches fault? Almost everyone had a horrible game, it happens. The whole team takes the blame as well as Howland..but to say the team was unprepared is crazy! Howland never looks past opponents, that isn't is style.

by abby8065 on Feb 11, 2008 3:27 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Officiating
A lot of comments about the team but I think all including the coach will work to correct and improve so it doesn't happen again this season.

NOW as far a Pondexter and the trow to the face. He should have been ejected from the game and in reality should be suspended for not less than 3 games.

He could have done serious damage to the eyes, facial bone structure, broken nose.  Aboya was lucky this time but some other kid might not be so lucky if this type of foul is allowed to persist.  For the sake of the game and the players the NCAA should immediately take action.  

by Blue Critter on Feb 11, 2008 4:11 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

PS
Kansas lost to Texas today and UNC needed 2 OTs to put away Clemson at home. Doesn't make the egg we laid in Seattle any better, but it does highlight that no one is invincible right now (call me when Memphis joins a real conference).

by Tydides on Feb 11, 2008 9:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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Brad_pitt_as_achilles_small Achilles

Small Meriones

Telemachus_small Telemachus

Small Odysseus

Blue_bellerophon_small Bellerophon

Authors

Images_small Ryan Rosenblatt

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