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One Possible Reason for Our Defensive Worries...

... may be our thinning backcourt.

Let's face it, our D schemes are built on tight, aggressive man defense at every position.  You need quality bigs, to be sure.  Bigs who can rebound (KL, LMRAM, LMR, AA2), hedge on pick and rolls (LMRAM, AA2, and especially LMR!), and fill their roles with brains and toughness and/or tenacity (all our bigs, including Keefe).

But, in recent years, by far our strongest area of defense has been perimeter D.  Look at last year -- we had a reliable, formidable 4-man defensive rotation in the backcourt.  

(1)  AA -- a great combination of strength and almost limitless endurance, enabling him to chase and handcuff shooters.  Maybe not the #1 quickest SG around, but quick enough, and freakishly determined.

(2)  DC -- applying one-man pressure to force PGs to set up their offenses 3-4 feet further out, or get in sync 3-4 seconds later in the shot clock, everytime.

(3)  Roll -- again, not the quickest guy in the world, playing smart defense and not messing up the team schemes.

(4)  RW -- pure quickness and aggressiveness off the bench.

FOUR GUYS, without even counting JS swinging down to the backcourt in times of injury or crazy foul trouble.

Even the year before, we sent guys after opposing guards and swingmen in waves, with Farmar, AA, the green-but-whippet-fast DC, and the underrated Ced Bozeman.  Yeah, Ced played the 3 in our sets, but still -- a long-armed 6-6 guy who covered whomever you wanted?  Sold.

THIS YEAR?  Hooooo boy.

(1)  DC -- Coming off injury, but back to his time-burning, floor-extending one-man press.  Check.

(2)  RW -- Playing smarter, tougher D at the 2-guard spot.  Check.

And, um...  hmmm... oh dear... who else?  Oh yeah...

(2.5)  JS -- occasionally playing the 2, and still adjusting to the different D assignments.

I have believed for several eyars that to have an effective defense -- not necessarily a Detroit Piston "Bad Boys" D, but an EFFECTIVE one -- you need some basic elements.  In brief, they are:

(A)  INTERCEPTOR -- a guy with quickness to disrupt the opposing PG and keep them from setting up right away.  Preferably your PG or other good handles guy who can steal the ball and score at the other end on his own.
e.g., Collison last year, Byron Scott on the Showtime Lakers, Tyus Edney on the '95 Champs.

(B)  SEEKER -- Like Potter on a broom, your go-to chaser guy.  If the other team has a freakish shooter off screens, or a crazy slash and finisher, you send THIS GUY to cuff him and stuff him.
e.g., Coop on the Showtime Lakers; Kobe and/or Rick Fox during the Bling Era; AA last year.

(C)  INTERCHANGEABLE WINGS -- You know the types.  6-4 to 6-8 guys, long-armed, absurdly fast quick-twitch muscles.  Guys who can double the post and still get back to the shooters.  Guys who, if they switch off on pick and rolls or fighting through screens, can pick up the other guy's man with no worries.  Can include your seeker or even your interceptor.
e.g., Charles O'Bannon and Toby Bailey and Ed; Jordan and Pippen and Harper; Fox and Horry and Kobe.

(D)  BACKSTOP -- Shotblocking is great, but not entirely essential, depending on the team.  However, the backstop has to take up space (by muscle or plain mass), control that space (by length or by strength), and make other guys regret going into the surrounding airspace (block 'em or rock' em).  
e.g., Hollins in '06, Mata in '07.

In any event, let's face it:  guards have to run around more.  A LOT MORE.  Thus, it's important to have quality and quantity of depth in the backcourt if you want to keep chasing shooters, taking PGs out of sync, and fighting through screens.

This year, with a healthy Roll, a 3-guard rotation in the backcourt (since LMRAM is just better at 4 for us than he is at 3, thereby forcing JS to be at the 3 again this year) would have changed things, but would still have been doable.  Conceivably, DC would have start at the 1, Roll may have been a named starter at the 2, and RW would coms in to spell either and still play starter's minutes.  Start RW instead of Roll, and it'd still have arguably the same effect.

But without Roll?  Geez, we're playing with a two and one-half guard rotation here:  DC and RW with extended minutes, and JS essentially the 3rd guard here, and only part-time, at that.

In years past, we've had an abundance of guys in the 6-0 to 6-6 range (Dijon, Ced, AA, Roll, RW, Jordan, DC, Shipp, etc.)  NOW?  Holy freaking BLEEP.

We've got an interceptor, we've got a seeker, but the interhcangeable wings are lacking.  Granted, CBH's defensive schemes don't call for that many switches, but the same skill sets and physical attributes are needed.  

Right now our guys have plenty of strength, but we need to develop our younger quicks.

Think of it this way -- we have THREE rotation guys capable of defending the center position on this squad:  Love, Mata-Real, and Aboya.

We have SIX guys capable of defending one or both forward positions on this squad:  Aboya, LMRAM, Keefe, Shipp, Drago, even Mata-Real (who still has the edge on footspeed and alterals over Kevin.)

Um, how many guys do we have that are capable of guarding guards?  Seriously.  THREE.  Darren, Russell, and Josh -- and Josh is having some trouble on that end.

And his troubles reflect the team's troubles.  That's our big problem.  I'm not blaming Josh, or anyone else.  The fact is, though, we need to get help for our backcourt, and on the defensive end.

Personally, I still think Chace will be the key to stopping the stretch-run bleeding, but Chace MUST practice well enough and develop fast enough to get IN the game.  The kid may still be thin, but he clearly has athleticism.  He may not be AA 3.0, but we clear need some energy on the perimeter to spell our starters.

Otherwise, we could have more problems.  Shoot, we are already having some now -- look how many times the back door has been open.

It is clearly fixable, but it HAS to be fixed soon.

We need another wing.  We need another seeker/ chaser.

I think we need Chace.

OK, enough from me.  Feedback is welcome.

M

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Great Analysis
I forgot all about how concerned I was with our lack of backcourt depth when it seemed like we would be having trouble integrating KLove into the offense. Now we are seeing a return to this problem, and it might not necessarily be fixable this year. We were counting on Roll to provide a few minutes off the bench and now he's no longer available. Looking back on it, we have been losing guards ever since that first Final Four run and have really only brought in Westbrook to stem the tide. I'm glad we're bringing in so many talented guards next year, because that's a luxury we've been taking for granted. I just hope this isn't a fatal flaw for us this year.

by Tydides on Feb 15, 2008 7:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

This has been enlightening
I really think you've got a great point here.
Is Stanback the answer though?  It sure seems like he is having problems adjusting to the Ucla world...am wondering whether he is the one Dohn was hinting at who might be looking to transfer at the end of the season...it probably isn't keefe as he is getting in the lineup, my guess is either stanback or dragovic

by glassbruin on Feb 15, 2008 10:38 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not Doh! again
Doh! (who we know does not deal in rumor, because he says so) hints that one of the Bruins may transfer.  OK.  Let's just say, totally hypothetically of course, that Doh! (who does not deal in rumor) just flat out made that up.  Next year is way off, so if nobody actually transfers, most people will have forgotten about the hint (not rumor, because Doh! doesn't deal in rumor) and everyone just moves on.  But AHA!  If someone does transfer, you can bet that Doh! will dig out the old story, and voila - Doh! is proved to be a pundit because he and only he was able to ferret out this hint (not rumor, because he doesn't deal in rumor.)

So let's try this.  Here are my hints, all of which will happen within 2 years based on hints I have received from my sources:

  • One well-placed NFL source has hinted that a highly respected Pac 10 assistant will get a heavily sought-after NFL coordinator's job.
  • A highly confidential source at the NCAA says that the one-time investigation of justsc has already been put on the back burner, and it won't go anywhere unless bu$h confesses.
  • An source inside the Pac 10 Commissioner's office says that someone close to the commissioner will make a heavy play to totally revamp the television package for all Pac 10 sports.
I confess I just made all that up.  But doesn't it sound like the "very hush-hush and strictly confidential" (as narrated by Danny DeVito in "LA Confidential") hints that Doh! comes up with. So if any of those hints comes to pass, all of a sudden I'm a guru.

Or like Doh! I just make stuff up that could come true.

I hate to go ballistic over such a trivial irrelevancy as Doh!, but it disturbs me when fellow Bruins say things that suggests that Doh! has or deserves even a modicum of respect, because in my opinion he doesn't.  His column, in my view, deserves it's place at the bottom of the actual and virtual bird-cage.
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by Fox 71 on Feb 15, 2008 10:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

well...
if i actually was trusting dohn because it was dohn i would be relieved right now, because you are right in your critique of dohn...

but personally i am struggling trying to make sense of stanback's limited minutes given his athleticism/his profile coming in.  my limited deductive conclusions are based on these facts:

  • i trust coach howland implicitly
  • we have a relatively solid recruit who isn't getting playing time
  • coach howland thinks defense first
  • dragovic seems to be above stanback right now in the depth chart
so let's take dohn out of the picture, what is the best way to make sense of these facts?

by glassbruin on Feb 16, 2008 6:21 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

This is why
Roll is such a huge key. And his contributions to the team goes well beyond his 3 pt. shooting. I think Roll is done for the year and will red shirt.

But I think Coach Howland is holding on to hope that he will able to come back by tourney time and give it a go. That is why he is non committal.

Great analysis M. Glad you put it up because I thought everyone needed to read it.

by Nestor on Feb 16, 2008 6:32 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

You're welcome, N.
Work's been hellishly busy (trial next week, pre-trial deadlines for a trial in April, multi-million dollar litigation in discovery phase), so I haven't had nearly as much time to post.

We've got, what, SEVEN PAc-10 games left.

Enough's enough.  I believe in CBH, but I am PRAYING we get Chace some time.  We simply don't have any other blue-chip talented (if not yet experienced) guards left.

We don't need him to give us 8-10 pts. off the bench.  We just need 8-10 minutes of decent defense, fundamental decision-making, and honest effort.

Keefe only gave us 8-10 minutes last year toward the end of the season and in the tournaments, but they were certainly good enough, esp. in the Big Dance.

Let's start KL, LMRAM, and JS and RW and DC all at once if we have to.

But we need a GUARD, or at least a true swingman, coming off that bench.  Drago is as much of a guard as JR Sakuragi -- ahem, Henderson -- was.  If Chace can be even HALF of what Toby was at the end of Toby's freshman year, we'll be in SOLID shape for a Final 4 run.

We've got LMR, AA2, and Keefe coming off the bench.  Follow-up all that beef with a smooth Chace-r, and we'll make it.

From our keystrokes to God's ears...

M  

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Feb 16, 2008 8:16 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

nice analysis,
but i disagree with the idea that there is a worrisome lack of depth in the back court. when our defense has looked suspect has been early when dc wasn't in or 100% and luc's been out, period. those 2 guys make our defense run so it's not surprising that it looks less than top form with them out. look we have dc, russ, shipp... whatever we can squeeze outof the rest of the lot is fine by me. 3 man rotation for the 2 guard spots doesn't worry me too much. as i posted before, losing roll for the year means nothing, he hasn't produced as of yet anyway. hopefully it's on account of injury that he hasn't looked like what anyone expeted from him- hope that's the case. but i have to disagree with the original poster's assessment of roll- he was a liablity on D when he was playing- again hopefully it was because he was playing hurt.
i dont think chace is entertaining transferring either, but i hope he rounds into form soon. he could be very good. if anyone is transferring, i'd put my money on abdul-hamid.
Across The Face

by rb bruin on Feb 16, 2008 3:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

My concern is that we don't have 3 guards...
... at least not as long as we start Josh at the small forward spot.  We simply don't have anyone to spell our Top 3 smaller players (Josh, Darren, and Russell).

Honestly, I'd be willing to entertain the notion of Drago starting at the 3 and Josh start at the 2, in order to have RW come in fresh off the bench, and then play Josh and RW and DC down the stretch.

I don't think the importance of guard depth can be underestimated here.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Feb 16, 2008 6:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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