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Bill Simmons and the Kiss of Death

I'm not sure how I feel about Bill Simmons.

I read his ESPN column semi-regularly, I'd probably read it more if I remembered to read it, but I'm still a newspaper guy and a radio guy and haven't quite got in the habit of reading anything on the web regularly (except Nestor but that's just because I'm afraid otherwise my checks won't cash.)

Push come to shove, I'd have to say I'm a fan of Simmons, he's probably the best writer on the web.

There, I said it.

I do hold it against him that he's friends with L.A. talk show personality (and I use the term "personality" very loosely) Dave Dameshek against him (the best thing I can say about Dameshek is that his show is so horrible I've started listening to NPR on the way from work and become a much more informed citizen in the proces.) Simmons is also a fan of all the Boston teams and ... seriously ... fuck the Red Sox.

Simmons also spends a little too much time in Popcultureville -- his show sometimes reads like a sports talk radio show that just got the word that listeners want "man talk" not "sports talk." But, we grew up watching the same TV shows, so I'll give him a pass.

I did already mention he's the best writer on the web. Which might be sort of like being the fastest guy on the bowling team -- impressive but not saying much.

Today's column is worth a read no matter how much you like or dislike Simmons. In it, he gives the Bruins his "kiss of death."

I have some bad news for UCLA fans: I'm about to kill your season by picking the Bruins to take the 2008 title.

Please don't consider this a bandwagon pick, although it's true UCLA became my "favorite" college team, and I watched the Bruins more than every other '08 team combined. Up until two weekends ago, I didn't think they had enough to win six straight March Madness games because of the way they struggled to get easy baskets. But UCLA's biggest handicap eventually morphed into its biggest strength -- the Bruins don't have a low-post stud (like Michael Beasley) or an ankle-breaking perimeter guy (like Jerryd Bayless), but they do have a team full of "MacGyvers." And it's one of those college seasons where the best MacGyver team is going to win.

Remember MacGyver? He wasn't a stereotypical action hero and saved the world with whatever gadgets he could whip up on the fly, but the point was, he did keep saving the world. That's how UCLA plays. Maybe the Bruins don't have that killer offensive player or shoot 3-pointers consistently well, but they have a knack for making big plays in big moments … even if it's a game-winning basket where they grab two offensive rebounds and rescue a pass that bounced off someone's face before the winning hoop gets scored. Everything you need to know about UCLA's season happened in the Cal game two weeks ago. Down four with 20 seconds left, Kevin Love nailed a Laimbeer-like 3-pointer with a hand in his face. Somehow, the Bruins stole the ball on the ensuing possession after two of their players legally assaulted Cal's Ryan Anderson, and then, Josh Shipp made the game winner on an illegal prayer over the backboard. That was the ultimate MacGyver victory. But here's what everyone missed from that game: If you watch the replay of the illegal shot that never should have counted because everyone and their brother know you can't shoot over the backboard, even as Shipp is driving baseline and preparing to hoist The Shot That Never Should Have Counted, everyone was watching him except for Love, who bullied himself underneath the basket before the ball was even released. Had there been a bounce, Love would have tipped it in.

Just read the rest via the link above.

Here is a picture of Macgyver:

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Although I
obviously don't like the teams Simmons supports, I too have always been a fan of the sports guy.  He's funny, clever, and he really does know his stuff.  His knowledge of the NBA leads me to believe he could manage better than nearly any GM out there.  Plus Boston fan or not, you gotta love his passion for sport..as well as his general passion and knowledge for classic movies and t.v. shoes.

He's really unconventional in that he writes something between a sports blog and an episode of Jimmy Kimmel.  

I'm just worried because Simmons is known for causing or predicting heartbreaking upsets...see Superbowl XLII. Let's not even associate any of that mojo with our Bruins.

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 19, 2008 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Simmons was actually
a staff writer for Jimmy Kimmel Live also

by bruinhopeful on Mar 19, 2008 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha
yea thats how it popped into my mind...he often times has Adam Carolla who's best friends with Kimmel, and obviously had a role on Kimmel as well.
O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 19, 2008 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Low Post Stud?
I must have misread the prior Bruins Nation entries which showed KL as Pac-10 player of the year, and the only freshman to score at least 10 in every game this season.  I like the conclusion by Simmons, but I don't understand the logic.

by islandbruin on Mar 19, 2008 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Workmanlike
I think what he was trying to say by stud is                                                     how Love isn't flashy or makes his presence felt, but rather how he just gets things done. Like you don't realize how good he is.

I don't agree with it, but oh well.

One note: he stole Kapono's joke! "At the NBA pre-draft camp, UCLA's Jason Kapono said, "I should have left UCLA after my freshman year, played in Croatia, grown a beard and changed my name to Vladimir Kaponovich. That would have been perfect."            

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/zillgitt/2003-06-27-zillgitt_x.htm

by kidro2001 on Mar 19, 2008 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I admittedly LOVE Simmons
And met him at a Clippers game twice (sadly), and he's a sports nerd originally from Boston, just like me.

What I appreciate about his writing is that he is an unabashed homer and doesn't try to cover this up with tons of faux-factual data with a huge agenda; rather, he loads up with pop-culture references like The OC, Real World, and...Macgyver?

I take this for what it is: an article about how the UCLA Basketball Program has returned to form and giving respect where it's due.

I find the "jinx" tagline to be in his self-deprecating style of humor, which I love as an easy read.

by bruinhopeful on Mar 19, 2008 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Another pick for us...
This one comes in a crazy roundabout way, with Randy Hill from Fox Sports finding any which way possible to pick UCLA to win it all...through a less-than-logical elimination process. But it's worth the read just for the end, where he takes a nice little jab at our favorite Lizard.

by tasser10 on Mar 19, 2008 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Poor Grease Monkey
But speaking of which, did anyone here see Slick Steve last night at the play-in game?  No gel!  Apparently Dayton, Ohio doesn't sell motor oil in gallon form.

by bruinhopeful on Mar 19, 2008 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hilarious Voo-Doo Reasoning
But, I agree with the result.  Thanks for posting this, it's kind of fascinating in a "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" way.
Love My Bruins

by Bruingirl83 on Mar 19, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good link..
..actually thought some of the criteria use to eliminate teams was kind of logical. But, you're right. a little flighty ~~ which is typical for this time of year.

On another subject, Tasser, would you mind sending me an e-mail? My address in my profile. My son's cozying up to crew now with his anticipated entry into OCC in the Fall and I/we wanted to see what was happeinig this Spring.

Thanks.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Mar 19, 2008 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simmons...
I've been reading Simmons since 2001, stopped being a fan around 2005, but I still read his columns because everything else on the evil-4-letter sucks except JA Adande.  I even bought his book and waited in line at Sonny McLean's in Santa Monica so he could inscribe "Get him a body bag! Yeaaaaah" inside the cover.  

He's a great writer when he leaves out the blatant Boston homerism.  The piece he did on Jamiel Shaw was easily his best stuff since the 2004 Red Sox commemoration to all the fans who never got to see them win the series.  I could do without the incessant pop culture references but at the same time I laugh whenever he throws in a 90210 or Karate Kid line.  

Thinking about it more... I think I have a bigger problem with Boston than I do with Simmons writing about Boston.  God, I really, really despise that city.  

by ishXdavid on Mar 19, 2008 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Is it that you hate Sox fans, or Boston?
I'm a till-I-die Dodgers fan and I always get the look when I tell people I grew up in Boston when I was really young.  The rest of Boston (besides the obnoxious Sox fans) is a really great play to live.

by bruinhopeful on Mar 19, 2008 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I lived in Boston for two years
The people are generally miserable, the weather sucks, and that city has once of the biggest inferiority complexes I have ever seen manifested in my entire life.  

For God's sake, citizens of Boston.  You are not New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, etc.  There is no need to constantly remind everyone from these places that you are so much cooler than them because you are from Boston, and they are not.  

Oh, and that that place that you're from that's not Boston?  Yeah, that sucks too, wherever it is.

There's no need to compare yourselves to something you're never going to be, though.  This would be almost as asinine and useless at Atlanta trying to compare itself to Miami.

I had someone from Boston once tell me "Why would anyone live anywhere else?  You can go to the beach here during the summer, and then go skiing in the winter.  It's perfect!"

My response?

"Yes, well, you can do that in Los Angeles.  On the same day.  Trust me, Boston's not that special."

My general impression of Boston is that the people who love it have never visited many other places outside the East Coast.  It's like they don't even know the rest of the country exists.

by CAJason80 on Mar 20, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simmons and the Sox
Long time lurker first time poster....

I'm a long time UCLA fan who grew up in Westwood and ended up at school in the Boston area. Therefore, believe it or not, I'm both a UCLA and Red Sox fan. I've been reading Bruins Nation for a couple of years now, and I really appreciate all the time and effort you guys put into the site. But I'm here to read about UCLA. So it's kind of disturbing to see you write "fuck the Red Sox" in bold on a front page post. I'm sure that amongst all the readers here there is a probably a fan of every team in MLB, even the Devil Rays (or now, the Rays). And I don't see any reason to attack any other reader's life choices outside of being a UCLA fan. I'm more than happy to see us say fuck SC in every post, but otherwise can we please stick to the topic of the Bruins?

Thanks.

by laradar on Mar 19, 2008 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

how about an asterisk?
With the disclaimer, "opinion expressed is solely that of the poster and does not reflect that of the entire Bruins Nation...only those with discerning taste."

by insomniacslounge on Mar 19, 2008 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't kill the messenger
I made a comment, which I think is a pretty reasonable one at that, and you feel the need to take a shot at me? Come on. If you disagree with THE POINT just say that you do. Don't come after the OP.

by laradar on Mar 19, 2008 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

No
This is an online journal. We put up posts that reflect our personal povs, thoughts while we write about UCLA. This is not some official, public service site where frontpagers who are putting up posts on their own time have to cater to taste of every single reader.

If someone thinks that kind of disclaimer is necessary, he or she shouldn't read BN.

by Nestor on Mar 19, 2008 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My comment was intended to be sarcastic
Guess it didn't translate well in type.   Perhaps I needed a "  :)  lolz  " after it.

by insomniacslounge on Mar 19, 2008 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Simmons
I don't like him. And I never will. If he really liked UCLA, he wouldn't have confirmed the WWL party line re Andersen getting 'assaulted' (when Tele's replay showed otherwise) and Shipp's shot being 'illegal' (an arguable claimed rebutted by a major NCAA official).

That said it was a fun read and its good to see everyone talking about us. That's how it should be for the Yanks of College Hoops. That brings me to last point: totally agree with you re the Red Sox. Screw them (and all other teams from 'the hub').

GO BRUINS.

by Nestor on Mar 19, 2008 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

The Problem with Simmons
Is that he's a huge Kareem hater.  He comes by it naturally, of course.  He worships Larry Bird.  Magic was a worthy antagonist for Bird.  He loves Walton, and even had a good podcast with him this season.  Simmons was concerned with getting into all of the details of the 86 championship from Walton's perspective, while BW did his usual Wooden-inspired cosmic song and dance.  So Kareem takes the hit, and Simmons likes to call the NBA's greatest scorer and the player who both revolutionized and dominated the college game a "ninny."  It's possible to understand where he's coming from, and it's equal parts prejudice and ignorance.

I'm a huge fan of Simmons and his work.  He's a gifted writer with a great voice, and he's always fun to read.  Sometimes he gets in over his head (he seemed to be particularly off the mark about the recent writers strike), but I don't blame him for being passionate about Boston.

The article is a fun read.  It's a bit annoying for him to think he was the only person who knew about Westbrook or saw his potential.  He makes up for it, however, with his appreciation of Kevin Love.  He has realized that there is a very special team and coach and group of players in his own backyard.  

He wants to be a UCLA fan.  He knows how it would pay dividends.  He doesn't get specific, but you can tell that when he went to Pauley Pavilion this seaon (probably for the first time), he realized that just as his Dad had Celtics season tickets and took him to the Boston Garden and he saw Larry Bird win a few rings, there are guys like me who went with their dads to Pauley and got to see 10 championship teams.

You have to feel a little bit sorry for Simmons.  He mentions how he was too young to know the Wooden years.  That's why his appreciation of Kareem is skewed, and he'll never really "get" Bill Walton completely.  But if he's too young for Wooden, you realize that his appreciation of the Bill Russell Celtics is all second hand, and it comes through his dad.  My dad can tell me about Red Sanders, but that's completely different from my vague early memory of Gary Beban and the Bruins winning a Rose Bowl, or having my own heart broken by OJ Simpson, or by Bill Russell beating Baylor and West year after year.  Or finishing the season cutting down the nets, year after year.

It's good to see Simmons' appreciation of Howland and the fellas.  He needs to do a study of Kareem, however, and show some understanding and appreciation, before we should give him any genuine acceptance around here.  He can start by asking his buddy Walton--no one has a deeper and better appreciation of the greatest UCLA basketball player of all time than the man who walked down the exact same path to glory.  The same path that Kevin Love will follow tomorrow.              

by zhivooden on Mar 19, 2008 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey Zhivooden, I like the way
You wrote about Kareem and Walton, how they traveled the same path to glory. And that KLove will follow, etc.  

These are such stirring phrases rallying all Bruin fans as our quest for #12 starts tomorrow.  I guess Simmons wanted to say UCLA is a battle tested team.  Its grittiness will surprise many in the tournament.
It used to be Bobby Knight's Hoosiers, in their heydays of the 70's and 80's, being tough to play against during crunch time.  That championship game between Syracuse and the Steve Alford led Indiana team when the latter beat Jim Boeheim's squad was a vintage one.  'Cuse outplayed them all the way, but Knight's team hung in there and made the final basket.

Only Larry Brown's first team at Westwood showed similar scrappy style.

by Htse005 on Mar 19, 2008 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like how...
He equates us with Celtic fans now when last season he was equating us with Raptor ones (i.e. tons of them you don't notice until you have the "audacity" to say something bad about their team).

Bill Simmons is like every other blow hard in the sports journalism industry. He talks out of his rear and expects none of us to remember some of the ludicrous stuff he's said in the past because hey they're only human right?

He can go take a long walk off a short cliff.

by Karakand on Mar 19, 2008 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I may not always agree ...
... with everything that Bill Simmons writes, but I do typically enjoy his work, even though he can be a raving Laker hater.  

However, probably the best, funniest piece written by him is his LEGENDARY Venegance Scale.

Basically, he comes up with a scale, from 0.0 to 10.0, of great acts of vengeance in pop-culture history.  (Granted, it was prompted by Shaq's venom toward Kobe after getting traded, but still...)  

For example, Juice's relentless search for the real killers merits something like a, oh, 0.1.  Rocky kicking Tommy Gunn's *ss in Rocky 5 only gets a 0.0, as, well, Rocky 5 just doesn't count.  EVER.

The funniest bit, IMO, was what he had checked in at Level 8.0 on the Vengeance Scale:

8.0 -- Justin Timberlake's "Cry Me A River" video.

(Note: The most underrated example of vengeance on this list. After Britney cheated on him, not only did he dump her, he put out a best-selling album fueled by a song about their breakup in which he basically destroys her with the lyrics. Just an unbelievable piece of work. It's devastating. I can't even imagine what she did when she first heard it. And if that wasn't enough, he made a well-received video about the song, starring a Britney look-alike. And if THAT wasn't enough, he immediately started going out with Cameron Diaz. By the time he was done, Britney's career was in the tank -- she was chain-smoking and hanging out with backup dancers and white trash guys from her hometown. Now that, my friends, is vengeance. Bravo, Justin. Bravo.)

Good stuff.  Check out the list if you get a chance.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Mar 19, 2008 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I think
by far his funniest "articles" or sports lists are his

"Reggie Cleveland All-Stars", a list of sports figures whose names would seem to indicate that they are of a different race or ethnicity than they actually are. (The namesake is Reggie Cleveland, a white former pitcher with a "black-sounding" name.)

and the "Tyson zone" which chronicles athletes and stars that have done things so outrageous, you would believe seemingly any story written about them, therefore entering the tyson zone.

Again, although I appose nearly every team he likes, (besides Tottenham Hotspur, who he tried to follow for the year), the guy is funny and entertaining IMO..and thats what I take from his work.

O.A.

by Ollie on Mar 19, 2008 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

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