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Another look at Western Kentucky

Bumped. -M

Well, that last game sure was a battle. As I argued could be the case in my last preview, Texas A&M looked far from the #9 seed that they came into the game possessing. This time, we get to look forward to a matchup with the Hilltoppers of Western Kentucky, who before the past weekend was typically thought of as the school with the big red blob of a mascot. WKU has a couple of strong players, including a possible 1st round draft pick in Courtney Lee. I'll leave discussion of Courtney and his teammates to others here that may have more insights as to his effect on the game. While WKU is not regarded as quite the test that Texas A&M was, they are not a team that can simply be looked past - particularly with Luc's health again in question.

Western Kentucky enters Thursday night's game with a 29-6 record. WKU finished tied for the Sun Belt's regular season title, and won the auto bid by way of winning the conference tournament. With the West's #12 seed, they defeated Drake and San Diego to advance to the Sweet Sixteen.

UCLA and Western Kentucky have faced one common opponent, Michigan. WKU defeated Michigan, 73-69 at the Great Alaskan Shootout. Entering the tournament, they had played two teams that had made the tourney, losing to Gonzaga in Alaska, and to Tennessee, by a score of 88-82 in Nashville. While UCLA has one of the longest current winning streaks in the NCAA, Western Kentucky is riding no less of a hot streak, having lost but one game since mid-January, winning 18 of its last 19 contests.

Now to the numbers...

RPI UCLA: #4, WKU: #39
Pomeroy Rating UCLA: #2, WKU: #61
Sagarin Rating UCLA: #3, WKU: #33

Not all that much to say about these rankings; as the popular media have pointed out over the past couple of days, WKU is considered one of the weakest, if not the weakest of the teams advancing to the Sweet Sixteen. While the fact that the team is one of the final 16 standing must stand for something, the comparative status remains.

Now for the efficiency metrics and pace of play...

Western Kentucky

  • Offense: 110.3 points/100 possessions (#64 in D-1)
  • Defense: 94.5 points/100 possessions (#56 in D-1)
  • Pace: 69.5 possessions/40 minutes
In regards to both offense and defense, WKU has the lowest adjusted levels of efficiency of the Sweet Sixteen teams. As well, WKU plays at a faster pace than our previous tourney opponents have, averaging nearly 70 possessions per game. In terms that we may better understand, their adjusted rate of play equals that of Cal during the past season, and is faster than all but UNC and Tennessee among Sweet Sixteen teams.

UCLA

  • Offense: 119.6 points/100 possessions (#6)
  • Defense: 82.5 points/100 possessions (#2)
  • Pace: 65.3 possessions/40 minutes
Using the above efficiency measures, together with the average pace of the two teams' play, the average game score of each team, based upon an equal schedule composed of average Division 1 teams would be:
  • Western Kentucky: 77-66
  • UCLA: 78-54

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Another statistical tidbit that may be of interest for Thursday has to do with fouls - Western Kentucky likes to foul. A lot. Going by the raw numbers, WKU has been called for 744 fouls this season (21.3/game). UCLA, in comparison, has been called for 511 fouls over the course of the year (14.2/game).

Pomeroy, as part of his statistics for each team, has a series of metrics that break down certain measures of offensive and defensive performance. In the case of Western Kentucky, two things stand out in relation to their defense: Their rate of forcing turnovers, and the rate of opponent's free throw attempts. While WKU is in the top-20 nationally in forcing turnovers, their advantage over UCLA in this category is relatively slight but noticable, an advantage of 2% of defensive possessions.

Fouls are a whole another matter. The first thing that got my attention while looking over WKU's numbers was an abnormally high defensive free-throw rate (#329 of 341 D-1 teams). This is a ratio of attempted free-throws to attempted field goals; while UCLA's Defense (which admittedly is called for relatively few fouls) exhibits a ration of ~ 1ft:4fg, WKU's defensive ratio is very close to 1ft:1fg, and accounts for a significant proportion of their defensive sets.

A rough analysis of the free throw ratio significance (very rough: while the statistic for turnovers forced comes directly from Pomeroy, the second and third statistics are numbers that I have roughly derived from his data sets. They are not exact counts of how many possessions end in fouls and/or shots from the field; I don't have the data available to make those sorts of calculations. Think of those statistics in terms of comparing free throws to shots from the field, or in comparing like statistics with other teams, and as a way of highlighting the significance of the high number of fouls drawn by WKU through the season.

Western Kentucky's defensive "possessions"

  • Turnovers forced: 24.5%
  • Free throws attempted: 36.5%
  • Field Goals attempted: 39.0%
UCLA's defensive "possessions", to compare
  • Turnovers forced: 22.5%
  • Free throws attempted: 19.1%
  • Field Goals attempted: 58.4%
The net result of this is that the Bruins may be spending some extended time at the free-throw line - lets hope that the shooting woes from the line that have emerged in recent games do not reappear on Thursday night. Take advantage of what may be many chances from the line, and the team should do quite well. Pomeroy projects a 75-60 UCLA win, with an overall probability of winning at 92%, while Sagarin's rating projects an 11-point margin in UCLA's favor. While the numbers certainly look to UCLA's favor, keep in mind that we are playing a team that has not experienced losing much recently; no matter how favorable this matchup may be, this is not a team that will simply be happy to be here and roll over for us.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of BruinsNation's (BN) editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of BN's editors.

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Look, I don't mean to demean WKU
but let's face the facts:  Players who cannot make it to Louisville or Kentucky wind up at WKU.  Sure, these players might have a chip on their shoulder and would like to prove a thing or two.

However, we have Howland (not the Greaseball) as coach.  A superior coach, with superior talent, playing near home.

This is NOT going to be a Princeton or Detroit Mercy -- not as long as Howland is our coach.

Yes, respect each and every opponent, but also be confident that a team that has beaten Stanford 3 times is not going to lose to WKU.

by bluegold on Mar 25, 2008 7:29 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
As long as we play our game, win the turnover battle, dominate the boards and hit our free throws, we should have a relatively stress-free game to watch (something that is relatively rare as a Bruin fan these days).

I think the most important thing is to not let them jump out to any sort of a lead...they have a legitimate go to guy who could make it extremely difficult to come back.

"I just think, at the end of the day, UCLA is not a great job." Brian D'Oh!n, 12/07

by godblesstyus95 on Mar 25, 2008 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was very surprised
when we lost to Washington.  Washington finds a way to beat us every year.  It seems silly to worry about Washington, yet they keep finding a way to win.  How the heck is that possible?

Howland has compared Western Kentucky to Washington.

by bruinofthenorth on Mar 25, 2008 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hubert Davis...
from ESPN is a complete idiot.  This is the same guy that kept picking Arizona during the season to beat UCLA.  But last night, he took it one step further and picked Western Kentucky to upset UCLA out of all the possible sweet 16 matchups.  His argument?  Citing Western Kentucky's backcourt play as being better than UCLA's.  Hey Hubert, have you ever watched Darren Collison and Russell Westbrook?  Westbrook and Collison will shut down Lee and Brazelton.  

by eoj703 on Mar 25, 2008 8:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Davis Delivers the Kiss of Death
By that I mean the kiss of death for the Hilltoppers.

This is the same guy who picked Cal to beat us at Berkeley because, in his opinion, Cal had the best frontcourt in the Pac-10 and DeVon Hardin was his pick for "game changing performer." Love went for 19 pts and 14 rebounds, and the vaunted Cal frontcourt of Anderson and Hardin combined for 20 and 16. No contest.

Then he picked gutless Arizona to beat us on our home court and Jordan Hill to be his game changing performer. Hill goes scoreless in the first half; his first basket trims our lead to 19, and he finishes with 8 pts and 4 rebounds. Love scores 15 in the first half and finishes with 26.

Now that the W Ky guards are Hubris's--oops I mean Hubert's--game changing performers, we can rest assured that Collison and Westbrook will bottle them up, and we'll win by more than 10 points.

But it's not as if Hubert will never learn: at least this time he was smart enough to know that the person who plays opposite of Love will not have a big game.

by BruinsRule on Mar 25, 2008 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great analysis bruinhoo!
I wonder what the analysis predicted for WKU's previous two opponents. It would be interesting to see if they are playing above their season average ratings, so to speak. That might say that they're either peaking or on a hot streak.
previously known as Grok451

by Telemachus on Mar 25, 2008 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm wondering how much time Luc will get?
With their size, it would seem that Luc isn't necessarily needed. Wonder if coach plays him as little as possible?
"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Mar 25, 2008 9:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If Luc is hurting, then I say start Keefe.
Three reasons:

(1)  Offensive balance -- Keefe is no 3-bomber, BUT he has shown he can hit 1 or 2 of those 16-19 footers per game.  Not much, you say?  it's more mid-long range shooting than we got from our 2, 3 and 4 spots last Saturday.  Even that much can help loosen up doubles on KL down low.

(2)  Defense -- This is where Keefe has shown the most improvement this year, IMO.  Smarter position D, better help on doubles (which we may not need as much agsint WKy), better awareness.  If the Hilltoppers are whippet fast, we need someone whose body can react.  Luc is fast, but if the ankle slows him, get Keefe in.

(3)  Rotation -- Not jsut allowing AA2 to hopefully get back on track with his high-energy play, a Keefe starting mvoe agaisnt a smaller team amy allow Luc to conserve his energy until crunch time, if there is any.  We can then keep his length/ strength/ quicks package fresh for the end, rather than burn out his ankle in 15 minutes of the first half.

M

"In this program your passion bucket must be full to play SC." -- CRN, to Dan Patrick, 1/2008

by Meriones on Mar 25, 2008 9:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It'll be a tough game
WKU has seniors and good guards, which means they'll make few mistakes so it will be a tough game. This is no gimme, our boys need to come out strong and shut the door early to take away their confidence.

They are a hot team right now and shoot pretty well from 3-point range. I do think it hinges on our backcourt defense. WKU generates most of its offense from that position. If RW and DC can frustrate them, it will make things much easier for UCLA. The only comparable backcourt that WKU has seen is Tennessee's in my opinion (they lost to them at home). Courtney Lee is a tough matchup, a 6-5 senior guard. I think RW and JS will have their work cut out for them. However, I expect their "bigs" to get in a lot of foul trouble and we should be going down low quite a bit. After the aTm muscle monsters, for KL it should be like swinging one baseball bat after swinging three together for warmup, but he'd better be sharp with his free throws.

Go Bruins!

by tasser10 on Mar 25, 2008 10:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree
We occasionally do get blowouts in the sweet-16  (Miss St in 95 comes to mind).  However, we should not assume that any remaining team the Bruins play does not deserve their spot in the sweet-16.  Hubris Davis is an idiot (WK win), but by the same token I don't think we should expect a game where we can rest our starters, etc.

by islandbruin on Mar 25, 2008 11:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice Thread, hoo.
The average game scores jumped out at me.

Western Kentucky: 77-66
UCLA: 78-54

WKU allows their opponents an average of 66pts; UCLA an average of 54.  All else equal, UCLA over WKU 66-54.  

by Rich1996UCLA on Mar 25, 2008 3:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That Said...
we have slow down their game and hold them w/ their 3s.  Offensively, I think we should be ok if we just play our game; rebounds (Luc and our other 4s must come through), inside w/ KL, decent perimeter fg%, and some penetration by our 1, 2 and 3s.  

by Rich1996UCLA on Mar 25, 2008 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another view is
...gulp!!...  UCLA wins 78-77.

by bluegold on Mar 25, 2008 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Ways Things have been
it wouldn't be a surprise.  By 1 or 12 pts., so long as we win.  

by Rich1996UCLA on Mar 25, 2008 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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