Preparing For A Nuclear Scenario
Before you read this post, let me warn you right here: this post will not be for the faint of heart. I think given the uncertainty we are facing in next few weeks in terms of who is going to stay or who is going to leave, it might make sense to mentally get ready for the worst case scenario now. That way no matter what happens we can figure out now what’s the worst case scenario for the prospects of our hoops team next season.
So with that in mind let’s be cognizant of couple of dates.
- April 27: Players have until April 27 to declare whether or not they will enter the draft. Some may decide to hire an agent. If they do that they will not be able to return to the college game. However, some may decide to "test the NBA waters" just like AA did after his sophomore season. In this case, the player will be able to work out for the NBA teams and get feedback on their draft stock. And in case depending on what they hear they will have to make a decision on whether or not to keep themselves in the draft. That takes me the second date:
- June 16: That’s the date by which players who haven’t signed an agent will have to decide whether or not to stay in the draft.
Well, I am not sure if I really want to play the waiting game. I rather figure out now what’s the worst case scenario we are looking at and in that case how we should approach/look forward to the 6th season under Coach Howland at UCLA.
With that in the mind I see the following players as gone:
KL: I understand right now there are some doubts in certain NBA scout circle about KL being a lottery pick. However, my gut tells me that KL is gone as long as gets the feedback of him being drafted high in the first round. I am going to speculate that KL will announce for the NBA draft by April 27, perform well, and not return to UCLA for his second season.
DC: Again see what I wrote above re. KL. Even though DC’s stock might have gone down due to his performances against Memphis and WKU, I still think he is going to declare for the draft and keep his name in it. I don’t see DC coming back for his senior season at UCLA.
RW: Yes, I get the point that RW still needs another year of seasoning in college game as a pure point guard. However, if a kid gets a guarantee from any NBA team that he is going to be drafted in the first round, it is hard to fault him for going pro. And I am not going to be one of those fans who is going to put his or her selfish reasons above what is most important to that kid’s self interest as determined by himself and those around him. So, with that in mind, right now I am resigned to concede RW not returning for his junior season at UCLA.
Now that the big 3 is out of the way, I am going to go ahead and take another step in terms of assuming the worst:
JS: I can see how it could be emotionally difficult for JS to return for his 5th season at UCLA, as most of his friends from last four years will be gone. I am not sure JS is even worthy of a second round pick in the NBA, but he could potentially explore a pro career in Europe (just like his older brother who went to Cal). So let’s stay JS is gone.
LRMAM & AA2: According to Diane Pucin in the LA Times, LRMAM on Saturday said:
Hey, are you still with me? Let’s make the situation even more dire. What if Dragovic decides it’s lot more fun jacking up shots in the Euro Leagues back home instead of learning to play defense and fundamentals of the game from Coach Howland.
So how will the rotation look without all of those guys mentioned above? Well here is my attempt:
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Holiday | Roll | Stanback | Gordon | Keefe | |
| Anderson | Lee |
Again obviously this the nuclear scenario I am envisioning at this case. But honestly, even if the nuclear scenario were to take place, do you think actually think it would be all over and that this team will not compete? Hardly.
First, even if this scenario took place, I would be Coach Howland and his staff would figure out a way to bring in more players to add to the 4 person 2008 class. Right now the other prospects who are on UCLA’s scout.com board are: Ater Majok, Krys Faber, and Jeff Taylor. I think it’s a good bet that Coach Howland and his staff will be amping up their recruiting efforts in the coming days to intensify their efforts to pursue any of the aforementioned recruits or others who haven't popped up in our recruiting radar. Don’t forget how they were able to land RW two years ago, just days after JF had decided to go pro.
Now that I have typed out the nuclear scenario, let me just say even if this were to take place, I would be more than excited about the upcoming hoops season. I would be just as excited about next year like when I was counting the days for JF, AA, JS and LMR to get started on the campus. Even in this scenario, I will get just as much joy as following our program, because it will be another opportunity to watch Coach Howland mold talented young man into well grounded basketball players, who will give everything they have to make the four letters in front of their jersey proud. It will be a new core, gelling with a whole new chemistry. And I think that’s a strong enough core that will win at least 20 something games, and get better as the season goes along, and will set up the foundation of yet another set of contending teams in the following years.
Again, as I have said repeatedly in this post already, this is the worst case scenario. It could very well be that LRMAM will decide to come back for another season as well as JS & AA2. And if they do our prospects will be even better.
Anyway, I wanted to make sure I get the worst case scenario out in the open … so if it were to actually happen we are all ready for it. I personally am not going to engage in any kind of campaign pleading KL, DC, RW or others to stay. As I have said before if those kids want to go, then I will be supportive of them and wish them luck. And we are not going to allow any kind of attacks on those kids who have given everything they have in their time at UCLA to make all of us proud on and off the court.
From the way I see it here, even if the worst case scenario were to take place, Coach Howland has such a strong foundation in place, that we will have enough talent to fight, scratch, and claw our way into another exciting season with bunch of youngsters who just like Coach Howland’s first class at UCLA, will build the foundation of yet another series of contenders in the coming seasons.
As an alum, I couldn’t ask for more in today’s world of college basketball from Coach Howland. So what ever happens by June 16, I am ready for it.
GO BRUINS.
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That would be brutal.
by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Apr 7, 2008 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet DC is gone
by Nestor on Apr 7, 2008 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are wrong about DC.
by Lakers Bruins Fanatic on Apr 7, 2008 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have never heard of
by Dodger Hater on Apr 7, 2008 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Overestimation of NBA prospects
Victor Page (G-Town)
Jason Osborne (Louisville)
Randell Jackson (FSU)
Winfred Walton (Fresno, started @Syracuse)
Albert White (Mizzou, started @ Michigan)
Schea Cotton (Alabama, almost UCLA)
Maurice Evans (Texas)
Josh Powell (NC State)
Doug Wrenn (U-Dub)
Keleena Azubuike (Kentucky)
Sean Banks (Memphis)
John Gilchrist (Maryland)
Randolph Morris (after FR season)
Shavlik Randolph (Duke)
Anthony Roberson (Florida)
Matt Walsh (Florida)
Kennedy Winston (Bama)
Curtis Stinson (Iowa St.)
Darius Washington (Memphis)
DeAngelo Collins (Inglewood, on Pistons now)
Lenny Cooke (NY; was battling Lebron for #1 at the HS ranks)
Jackie Butler (Suppose to go to Miss St.)
by BlueReign on Apr 7, 2008 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget our own
by godblesstyus95 on Apr 7, 2008 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ariza & Moiso
by BlueReign on Apr 7, 2008 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
by godblesstyus95 on Apr 7, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot Jaron
by BlueReign on Apr 7, 2008 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing the guys on the list have in common
by Fox 71 on Apr 8, 2008 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AA2
The situation with Alfred Aboya is not bizarre at all. As an example of the kind of young men who come to UCLA to play for Coach Howland, Aboya is on track to graduate this year. Playing ball and getting enough credits for a poli sci degree in 3 years is amazing (I was a poli sci major, and it took me 4 years with IM ball).
Who could blame him for wanting to start his new life back home? Great for us if he wants to stay and take postgrad courses for another year, great for him either way.
by islandbruin on Apr 8, 2008 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently
In the "nuclear" scenario, I think the backcourt play will still be pretty good and pretty deep too, it's the post play that would be the problem.
by Odysseus on Apr 7, 2008 6:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeap ... Post play is the key
Morgan would be great. Yet there is the "fit" issue. I don't think he will fit the culture of UCLA athletics.
by Nestor on Apr 7, 2008 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Fit" Issues?
by Raisin on Apr 7, 2008 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Fit"
by Nestor on Apr 7, 2008 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very eloquently put, N
by Fox 71 on Apr 7, 2008 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to distract from the original post
Although it is hard to read what we might have to face come June 16th, wonderful post Nestor!
by bruin08 on Apr 7, 2008 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am hoping
At the end of the day I think we will have people at the 4 or 5 either in LRMAM or AA2, or kids Howland and his staff will bring in. We are going to be allright one way or another.
So don't get down after reading my post. Just use it as a reference point for your mindset in the coming weeks.
by Nestor on Apr 7, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Safe to say
It's the frontcourt that really concerns me right now. Safe to say that depth here will be an issue at the very least. I hope Howland has a better plan to address this than he did in defending CDR and Rose..... ;-)
by godblesstyus95 on Apr 7, 2008 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow,
by Bruingirl83 on Apr 7, 2008 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh i'm definitely not down...
by bruin08 on Apr 7, 2008 6:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite sayings
No one knows what will happen, but I'm sure CBH is planning for the worst.
I really want JS to come back. I will not concede that he is a "European" player, yet.
He is one of our hardest workers -- started off on fire this year, and there is no reason he cannot come back and have a consistent, superb senior year.
He got a lot of BS press coverage from people who did not understand his contributions. I truly hope they have not stolen his joy. I look forward to seeing that smile in a Bruin uniform for another year.
by Class of 66 on Apr 7, 2008 7:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hit me with your best shot!
Is that the best you can do? Didn't even raise a welt!
The post-atomic era at UCLA means two things: More scholarships and more kids wanting to fill the holes to say that they were the guys who could get it done when Kevin Love could not (meant very respectfully, of course).
I realize this is the hot-stove league, but you guys gotta remember/respect the traditions: Wooden's Wickes & Rowe 'tween year teams, Larry Brown's "Bruins in Ruins" run, and Jim "Ball Burner" Harrick's '95 kids.
What's on paper is NOT what's on the court. You want more proof of that, take a look at what KU did when they were 9 points down to Memphis with less than 3 minutes to play.
Sure glad I am rooting for Howland and UCLA; sure hate to be a Memphis Tiger fan and have to wait another decade to show up to the dance.
..but, in fairness, paper is all we have to work with at this point. That notwithstanding, and in consideration of your nuclear option, I can't wait until June 16th to see what miracles Howland's gonna pull off to fill any holes.
by whp68 on Apr 7, 2008 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting thoughts
no sure about luc, i think athletically and defensively i like his prospects to have a long impactful nba career as well as anyone on the team other than westbrook.
by stephons on Apr 7, 2008 9:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep an eye on
by godblesstyus95 on Apr 7, 2008 10:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably not going to get Faber
by Fox 71 on Apr 7, 2008 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be Flounder, not Faber..
by whp68 on Apr 8, 2008 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
by blinkshot on Apr 7, 2008 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Howland has more than recruiting right now
(I added Luc and Shipp as I believe they will excercise their right to see how they compare playing against others and to get feedback on their games).
by bornagainbruin on Apr 8, 2008 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i said it in the other thread
This class coming in is damn near identical. A pure point in Anderson, an athletic and strong combo guard in Holiday, a wing in Lee, and a raw defensive presence in Gordon. Its scary how identical a lot of these players are.
But these new kids are supposed to be more highly rated, more athletic, longer, stronger than our first class and they are supposed to be just as class acts. If this class is as successful as Howland's first class, then we will have great times ahead of us.
by blinkshot on Apr 7, 2008 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What sucks is....
by madmaxucla on Apr 7, 2008 10:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget about 2009
The hardest thing is seeing this group of kids we love go eventually... but the beauty of college basketball is there will be a new crop who we will love just as much as the past
by SmrtGuy82 on Apr 7, 2008 11:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't Imagine Collison Leaving
by 75NatChamps on Apr 7, 2008 11:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
DC's strength is his speed and NBA scouts know this. DC is still projected to go in the late first round. His stock dropped but not by much per NBA scouts because they were surprised by what happened against Rose.
DC will come back if he wants another shot at a title and doesn't want to leave UCLA after going 1-9.
by BlueReign on Apr 7, 2008 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its hard to say
by blinkshot on Apr 7, 2008 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By your logic
by bluestreet on Apr 8, 2008 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that if the players want to go pro...
by bruindodger on Apr 8, 2008 1:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Maybe DC will remember his knee injury and the fact that he could be out $millions if it had been worse. Maybe he wont get as much as a late first rounder but I would guess ALL of the posters on this site would not mind making low first round salaries for the next couple of years.
I think the NCAA should provide insurance to all participants. If they pooled everyone it would not be that expensive (the VAST majority would have no real NBA potential so would be paying in for those few that do). Of course I am dreaming but maybe they could at least allow schools to pay for it.
by bruins grad and dad on Apr 8, 2008 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just glancing at the potential depth chart
by Tydides on Apr 8, 2008 3:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gordon Gone....
by madmaxucla on Apr 8, 2008 6:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I guess that is a nuclear scenario.
However, assuming this nuclear scenario pans out, then I think you were overly optimistic about the result. This team could win 20 games, but it wouldn't be easy (and 20 wins wouldn't even guarantee us a tourney slot). Holiday would have to have a huge scoring season, Stanback would have to have a miraculous improvement, and Gordon would have to give something on the offensive end. Plus Keefe and Roll would have to have good years, and EVERYONE would have to stay healthy.
If we are thinking nuclear--we can't expect best case scenarios from our players (even though Howland will make them better). Also you have Lee and Anderson as back-ups, which tells me they couldn't get in over Roll or Stanback--which would be sort of a negative, particularly for Lee who was an All-American.
It would be fun to watch the team--as it is with any Bruin team. And it would be great to see improvement on a young team. But the nuclear scenario would be known as "rebuilding." More like Florida this year, then UCLA the last two years. We had trouble scoring this year--think for a second how we would score next year under the nuclear scenario. Scary.
by rfirpo on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Has Everyone Forgotten About NAU...
Next year a core of offensively gifted kids are coming in to carry the torch. Malcolm Lee has been projected to be a one and done player by some scouts. If they can keep up the defensive intensity and provide that additional offensive firepower, this will be a team to reckon with. Howland will adjust his coaching to suit the teams strenght. Yes there will be growing pains but I believe they will be okay...
by RScal on Apr 8, 2008 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SI Top 10 Next Season
by islandbruin on Apr 8, 2008 5:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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