Dohn: NOT SO FAST ON LOVE edit: NO SO FAST ON COLLISON EITHER

by dokein on Apr 8, 2008 9:54 PM PDT Comment 56 comments

Brian Dohn just spoke to Kevin Love's mom:

I just got off the phone with Kevin Love's mother and she was adamant no decision was yet made, and was disappointed about reports she called "false" that her son already told UCLA coach Ben Howland he was leaving.

Update: Brian Dohn also just spoke to Darren Collison:

I just got off the phone with Darren Collison, who said the report he was leaving early for the NBA draft "is not true. I haven't even talked to my parents yet." I posted a small EAPoe comment earlier based on the idea that LA Times wouldn't risk their reputation by reporting something so big without confirmation, but now I realize that LA Times doesn't have a reputation to risk.

Obviously if Kevin Love stays, the implications will be huge.

If Collison stays, the implications will be huge. Expanding this will result in filler text to meet the minimum character requirement.

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They always deny

before official announcements. We'll see.

by Rich1996UCLA on Apr 8, 2008 10:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, we'll see

Obviously it could very well still be true, but "adamant" is an adjective I would not expect to be associated with routine denialspeak.

by dokein on Apr 8, 2008 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

why would they deny now that the season is over

that makes no sense.

They could still go, but that doesn't mean the times had the story right. Since its the times, my guess is their source is Tim Floyd.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Apr 8, 2008 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Because

They want to announce it themselves at a press conference.

by SuperBruinMan on Apr 8, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I doubt Kevin Love's mom would lie about it

The decision won't be made until the family discusses. Of course Love will most likely go to the NBA, but that isn't really a scoop.

"when you've seen how big the world is, how can you make due with this?"

by silverlakebruin on Apr 9, 2008 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

LA Times

what a joke. They just reported recently that Brett Favre was looking to play for another team; or his agent was looking around the league for someone that would trade for him.

by bruin95 on Apr 8, 2008 10:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

There was also the Tupac story

they had to officially retract that also.

by freesia39 on Apr 8, 2008 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What they say?

He was walking around like Elvis. :)

by Rich1996UCLA on Apr 9, 2008 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

They ran with a story

that P. Diddy (puff daddy, sean combs, whatever) had something to do with the murder but that was discovered to be untrue and their source pretty much fabricated it.

by freesia39 on Apr 9, 2008 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And who was their "source"?

I'm confident it was the guy in the next cubicle.

by Fox 71 on Apr 9, 2008 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sources

I would bet that the LA Times' source is Brian Dohn, and that Brian Dohn's source is the LA Times.

by bornagainbruin on Apr 9, 2008 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The problem with this is

They're always going to deny that they've come to a decision if they're planning on announcing it a news conference.

Collison's denial does sound pretty genuine though. "I haven't even talked to my parents yet."

by SuperBruinMan on Apr 8, 2008 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fox reporting them gone as well

Claiming to have the story independently. Not just the LA Times risking some of their rep (not that I think they are coming back, though it does seem reasonable that an official decision is a couple more days away).

by bruinhoo on Apr 8, 2008 10:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fox, FSN or Foxsports.com?

Because Foxsports.com just has the report from the LAT. No independent report or putting their own neck out there.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 8, 2008 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fox Sports Radio

claiming that they broke the story themselves (2 hours after the LATimes story) for what its worth.

by bruinhoo on Apr 8, 2008 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got it

well I don't expect to have either of them next year so I'm not going up and down with these reports.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 8, 2008 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Seems to merely be a matter of premature timing with this report, not that I expect the news to be any different once Love and DC talk w/their families.

by bruinhoo on Apr 8, 2008 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not that it matters much

from our POV because I, too, fully expect the result to be the same in the end, but we do have a problem here. These jackals, in their haste to be the first to break the story, essentially fabricated this report, nevermind that at the moment, it's completely inaccurate. They just wanted to be first. That's the MSM nowadays. And we're supposed to trust what they say on other issues?

by Tydides on Apr 9, 2008 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not much of a risk

Chances are they're gone. If so, they make out well. If not, oh well.

by SuperBruinMan on Apr 8, 2008 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fox 71 has made no announcement

Fox 71 (the nation's most authoritative news source) refuses to release an official statement. "We haven't even decided whether to recognize Kansas as NCAA champion" one Fox 71 source speaking on condition of anonymity said early this morning. "We have a team of lawyers reviewing the Final Four results, and we believe that UCLA may yet be declared National Champions."

(Fox 71 is not affiliated with Fox Sports, and does not eat free food offered in the press box.)

by Fox 71 on Apr 9, 2008 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now that's a stroty

I can run with.

Very funny.

Can I have your free food??

by artybruin on Apr 9, 2008 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coming from Dohn

it must be wrong. So either KL's mom and DC didn't deny the reports, or KL and DC are, in fact, leaving. Either way, it's bad news for Bruin fans.

greg in denver

by gbruin on Apr 9, 2008 12:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't necessarily think Doh!n is wrong

all the time. But obviously we raise red flags any time he makes a report or bases an opinion on his magical "unnamed sources". In this case, the sources are cited, and I don't think there are many reporters bold enough to take that kind of direct quote and spin it into something else.

However, in the end, I believe both will be gone, and that's all that really matters.

by Tydides on Apr 9, 2008 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're right.

Unfair of me to throw a cheap shot like that, and I shouldn't take out my frustrations on him. I guess it's kinda like how I hate my dentist, when I'm really just bummed at facing what I don't want to face (losing KL, DC, RW, LMR, maybe AA2, etc).

greg in denver

by gbruin on Apr 9, 2008 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Howland's Presser today

Anyone know what time it will be or if it will be broadcast anywhere?

greg in denver

by gbruin on Apr 9, 2008 2:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Seen this movie before

Love and DC are gone. It will be made official today after Howland's press conference. You can bet the house on it.

Westbrook is about 98% gone too. That 2% I'm leaving to the small chance that he may just decide to "test the waters", not hire an agent, have a bad workout in front of NBA scouts, etc....

At this point we should just consider losing those three a given, hope that it stops there, and move on.

"You don't make it to the Final Four three straight times for no reason..Obviously coaching has something to do with it." Darren Collison

by godblesstyus95 on Apr 9, 2008 5:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Expect this not to drag on and on..

Howland (and KL and DC and RW) will want to clear the air as soon as possible about their status. It serves no one to wait, to drag this on and on. The three will probably evaluate their market value with parental and professional advice this week and make a decision. But, if I am Love, why would I want to spend between now and April 27th being hounded by reporters about my decision?

If they stay, then Howland and UCLA can make plans for the Fall. If they don't stay, then he can contact, notify, and pursue potential replacement recruits.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Apr 9, 2008 6:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

This is all just a guess...

Since Collison has tested the waters before, and since we have way too many guards coming in next year, i'm sure he will go and get an agent right away.

Love will definitely go to the camp and test the waters, but he won't hire an agent I feel right away...leaving us all hanging...

by uCla on Apr 9, 2008 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Collison

Hasn't tested the waters before.

by Raisin on Apr 9, 2008 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh woops

oh woops...well then nm my guess on collison

by uCla on Apr 9, 2008 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

All of this may be true

But they could still both be leaving.

by jjreicher on Apr 9, 2008 7:03 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Three wealthy and influential alumni

have confirmed that they will all either leave, or they will stay at UCLA, or one or more (depending on some such, etc.) will stay or go.

by Class of 86 on Apr 9, 2008 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

HA!

by Rich1996UCLA on Apr 9, 2008 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What??!

I think definitely they all are staying or they are all leaving or a combination of any one or two of them may be staying or going!! That's a lock. I bet my life on it!

by cyberdbk on Apr 9, 2008 8:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Inside info

And that is from me a not so wealthy and influential alumnus

by cyberdbk on Apr 9, 2008 8:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I just heard from a reliable source that..

Fox71 is leaving. They think Tylides is staying but Nestor is calling a press conference late this afternoon to neither confirm nor deny any of the above.

by popopapa on Apr 9, 2008 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Fox71 should stay

Another year in BN will definitely raise his stock, as he really needs to develop his game watching skills with the volume on.

Prof 66 though, we knew all year he was gone. Hopefully the Trojie Times will draft him to run that brilliantly conceived combined UCLA-$cjc blog.

greg in denver

by gbruin on Apr 9, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am leaving early

too for the summer, but haven't yet contacted an agent for my travel itineraries. So that means if I change my mind after finding out the fares might be prohibitively expensive due to higher fuel costs, I may be back staying with BruinsNation.

Under the federal FCC guidelines, this is an option available for me.

by Htse005 on Apr 9, 2008 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I asked my boss about leaving early..

..and he said it was o.k. -- especially when I told him I came in late to make up for it.

God, it's great to be a Bruin!

by whp68 on Apr 9, 2008 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would rather trade Fox71 . . .

for a geezer to be named later.

by charnaw on Apr 9, 2008 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which reminds me of a true story

Long ago, the Tigers traded a journeyman catcher named Harry Chiti to the Mets for a player to be named later. At the end of the season, the player the Mets named was Harry Chiti, making him to this day the only player to be traded for himself.

And on a side note, I think I am taking way too much heat here. I am not declaring for the draft, and in fact have four years of eligibility left. Unfortunately, I doubt that I could get into the school with my high school GPA and my SAT scores.

by Fox 71 on Apr 9, 2008 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not to mention

the new SAT is out of 2400. All of us that took it prior to 2005 I think look even worse than we did before.

by Tydides on Apr 9, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just add in your Writing SAT II score

should almost even it out.

by freesia39 on Apr 9, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But they took out analogies too

My favorite :(

by Tydides on Apr 9, 2008 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No grades, huh?

Trent Johnson is dialing your number as we speak.

greg in denver

by gbruin on Apr 9, 2008 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If only he were in 8th grade

Timmeh would have offered him already.

by Tydides on Apr 9, 2008 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Never too late

I admit I'm guessing, but isn't Fox (...71, so about 21 + 37..) somewhere right around OJ Mayo's age anyway?

Or vice versa?

greg in denver

by gbruin on Apr 9, 2008 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No he's older than that

Same age as Davon Jefferson though.

by popopapa on Apr 9, 2008 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dickie Noles

Actually became the second baseball player to be traded for himself when he was traded for a PTBNL to the Tigers from the Cubs during the 1987 season. Then, the Tigers returned Noles to my Cubbies after the season was over.

by Raisin on Apr 9, 2008 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Come on, your not that old..

you have more than four years of eligibility left in you : )

O.A.

by Ollie on Apr 9, 2008 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thats a real Chiti analogy, Fox

by charnaw on Apr 9, 2008 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was waiting for that

It's a hard ch, not a soft ch. Although the guy's lifetime numbers made a soft ch much more descriptive.

by Fox 71 on Apr 9, 2008 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

espn news about to cover the story of

The Love of NBA Money" as they put it.

by popopapa on Apr 9, 2008 2:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

if two of the three stay...

We can almost guarantee a championship. Why is it always one year too late. Afflalo would have helped us big time this year. Im kind of getting tired of the close but no cigar speech as an Alum.

by Lboogee31 on Apr 9, 2008 4:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

We can never guarantee a championship

or almost guarantee one. In a single elimination tournament, you never know what could happen. One bad game and you're done or one game where the other team is shooting unconsciously and you're done. We would be the favorite should 2 or 3 return and have an awfully good chance at a title, but nothing is ever guaranteed.

by Ryan Rosenblatt on Apr 9, 2008 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs